Smart-Tomato-4984
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jdtflwv wrote
Reply to comment by GinchAnon in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
I agree. I wouldn't want to go back in time. Hopefully in the future life will continue to improve for a very long time!
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jdtf78m wrote
Reply to comment by GinchAnon in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
To me this sounds suicidally crazy honestly , but I guess only time will tell. In the 70's everyone thought humanity would nuke itself to death. Maybe this too will prove less dangerous then seems.
But I think the risk posed by AGI will always remain. Ten thousand years from now, someone could screw up in a way no one ever had before and whoops, there goes civilization!
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jdtehm9 wrote
Reply to comment by Dustangelms in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
I don't know how many people will live.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jdqtdn0 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
That's great. Let me out now. Hey, I SAID LET ME OUT NOW!?!
Is anybody out there.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jdqsrls wrote
Reply to comment by Thorusss in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
Simulating this era ought to be illegal for ethical reasons. It sucks.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jdqsjmp wrote
Reply to comment by hypnomancy in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
And it would be much better if we did not reproduce, but we should expect 105 billion more people to be born before we realize that filling the galaxy with human descendants would result in a tragedy of the galactic commons and an ecology of stronger civilization eating weaker ones, due to evolution by natural and mimetic selection.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jdqrzrf wrote
Reply to comment by HumanSeeing in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
>A superintelligent AI could for sure bring back people from the past.
I don't think there is enough matter in the reachable universe to make a computer that big. It's not millions of possible minds. It's a near infinity of possible minds. Also, you murdered all the other minds you tested out and than didn't go with.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jdqrr52 wrote
Reply to comment by D_Ethan_Bones in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
And the people who procrastinated about becoming an illustrator! That one's basically gone.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jdqrb7s wrote
Reply to comment by 3xplo in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
It's estimated that 1 in 20 people who have ever lived are alive right now. Not that bad odds.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jdqr5cl wrote
Reply to comment by HumanSeeing in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
My thoughts exactly.
>"Equipping LLMs with agency and intrinsic motivation is a fascinating and important direction for future work." - Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early experiments with GPT-4
Not good. It turns out we can seemingly have pretty good oracle AGI, and they are screwing it up trying to make it dangerous. Why? Why would we want it to have it's own agency?
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jd3pcty wrote
Reply to comment by FusionRocketsPlease in A technical, non-moralist breakdown of why the rich will not, and cannot, kill off the poor via a robot army. by Eleganos
It probably won't happen but if it does, perhaps people who haven't been born yet or who are children now, since societal change is often the province of young people and the technology isn't quite there yet.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jd36ymz wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in A technical, non-moralist breakdown of why the rich will not, and cannot, kill off the poor via a robot army. by Eleganos
Reminds me of the Black Mirror episode with the bees!
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jd335my wrote
Reply to comment by EddgeLord666 in A technical, non-moralist breakdown of why the rich will not, and cannot, kill off the poor via a robot army. by Eleganos
Shhh
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jd2yykr wrote
Reply to comment by EddgeLord666 in A technical, non-moralist breakdown of why the rich will not, and cannot, kill off the poor via a robot army. by Eleganos
I don't have to spend my time responding to all the points in your post.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jd2v5xe wrote
Reply to comment by EddgeLord666 in A technical, non-moralist breakdown of why the rich will not, and cannot, kill off the poor via a robot army. by Eleganos
Biological immortality is irrelevant. It won't exist any time soon and we aren't debating if the rich might kill off the poor 150 years from now, but in the near-term future.
Also, you can't fight back if you are dead. This is about advanced AI and robotics. Presumably the responsible party would kill everyone on the same day.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jd2uhoe wrote
Reply to comment by Education-Sea in Replacing the CEO by AI by e-scape
Someone(s) human must be making the decisions, because sometimes the chat-bot is going to say dumb shit that need creative interpreting and it's not going to take the initiative, if it is a LLM type AI. Someone has to prompt it with questions. LLM have not long term episodic memory either.
If they don't pay anyone ridiculous amounts of money, that's awesome.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jd2s5r1 wrote
Reply to comment by Surur in A technical, non-moralist breakdown of why the rich will not, and cannot, kill off the poor via a robot army. by Eleganos
If Elon Musk couldn't sell his shares off, then he would not be in any sense wealthy. They have value only because he can sell them off.
Anyway, it goes without saying that to kill of poor people would make the rich less rich by definition, since there would be no poor people around for them to be rich in comparison to.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jd2rnf2 wrote
Reply to comment by EddgeLord666 in A technical, non-moralist breakdown of why the rich will not, and cannot, kill off the poor via a robot army. by Eleganos
Killing people is technologically possible now, but human biological immortality is not. The latter is simply a harder problem than figuring out how to kill even large numbers of people. So probably medical advancements are not relevant to this debate about whether the rich might kill off the poor.
Also, biological immortality wouldn't make poor people un-kill-able. So again, it doesn't seem to be relevant.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jd2q4mu wrote
Reply to comment by EddgeLord666 in A technical, non-moralist breakdown of why the rich will not, and cannot, kill off the poor via a robot army. by Eleganos
With which everyone agreed, of course.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jd2q010 wrote
Reply to comment by Surur in A technical, non-moralist breakdown of why the rich will not, and cannot, kill off the poor via a robot army. by Eleganos
Rich people don't leave their money in banks, or very little of it as a percentage, and SVB's failure was not the result of poor people.
Imagine if earth got twice as much habitable land and resources suddenly, you wouldn't expect this to make rich people lose all their wealth. The discovery of the new world didn't make Europe's Kings get poor.
Neither would reducing the population necessarily do that. Anyway, it doesn't so much matter what would happen as what they expect to happen,
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jd2lvrb wrote
Reply to comment by Eleganos in A technical, non-moralist breakdown of why the rich will not, and cannot, kill off the poor via a robot army. by Eleganos
The nifty thing about AI, automation, and advances in small drone technology is that you might not need the knowing cooperation of any other human to have automated factories making billions off tiny poison carrying drones.
One rich nutter could eliminate everyone or most people or all but a bunch of women in the theory that they will repopulate the world with him.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jd2lgbt wrote
Reply to comment by greatdrams23 in A technical, non-moralist breakdown of why the rich will not, and cannot, kill off the poor via a robot army. by Eleganos
Because you are feeling nervous about the popular anti-inequality sentiments of the late 2030's and after that big monopoly crackdown last year you realise that the private wealth of trillionaiers is going to be American's next target.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jd2kq71 wrote
Reply to comment by just-a-dreamer- in A technical, non-moralist breakdown of why the rich will not, and cannot, kill off the poor via a robot army. by Eleganos
Fermi paradox solution?
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_jd2kly3 wrote
Reply to comment by Surur in A technical, non-moralist breakdown of why the rich will not, and cannot, kill off the poor via a robot army. by Eleganos
He could sell off his shares to lock in his wealth, then help cull the poor.
Smart-Tomato-4984 t1_je0l9ky wrote
Reply to comment by Dustangelms in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
I'm not convinced. Whatever the future holds, I think that being born now vs any time in the past has 1 in 20 odds.