It'll hold for about a month then they'll drop it.

Replay of mask mandates being lifted in stores and a few holdouts saying "we'll keep the rule".

Yeah, for a week.

I think you were initially downvoted because every branch Covidian always has a just-so story about how they caught it.

The hospital will hold out for like a month, tops.

>Meta-analysis (one of many) https://www.journal.acorn.org.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1105&context=jpn

Ouch. You fell at the first hurdle, here:

"Traditionally there are two reasons for staff to wear surgical masks in the
OR: firstly, to protect surgical sites from microorganisms transferred
from the faces and respiratory tract of scrubbed staff and, secondly, to
protect health care professionals from sprays and splashes of patients’
blood and body fluids during surgery.

>And for kicks and giggles some of the other studies. (You can pick which of these you think have be “de bunked”, although I can pretty much bet this is the last we will hear from you)

These threadbare models just don't cut it, three years into the pandemic.

The comprehensive review of gold-standard RCTs is far more compelling: https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub6/full

Its conclusion? The real-world evidence supporting masks is utterly threadbare.

This always seemed obvious to some. After all, we had wave after wave after wave of Covid throughout our mask mandate era.

Alas, it's good to have it finally confirmed.

The dark times of mandates, masks and lockdowns have been discredited forever. They will never return.

I can’t believe that three years into this, there are still people like you who think surgeons wear masks too … stop the spread of airborne respiratory viruses.

This was debunked in the simplest possible terms by April 2020.

Well, soon pretty much all health settings will be mask-free too.

There’ll be a few holdouts for a month or so, just like with stores, but by early spring it’ll be over.

At this stage, after three years, the onus is on mask proponents to produce overwhelming evidence of their efficacy. That simply isn’t available. It’s threadbare at best.

I’m not anti-mask. They were a useful placebo to help some of the more anxious to return to society, and I’m thankful for that.

I understand that you mean well. Unfortunately a recent Cochrane Review of gold-standard RCTs showed no strong evidence they work, which is likely what led to state lifting the requirement.

I know you mean well, but a recent Cochrane Review of gold-standard RCTs showed no strong evidence they work, which is likely what led to state lifting the requirement.

Unfortunately a recent Cochrane Review of gold-standard RCTs showed no strong evidence they work, which is likely what led to state lifting the requirement.

It was 53F on Jan 1. It was 52F on Jan 21.

(1923)

I'm off to buy some bargain waterfront NYC real-estate.

If people really believe that the place is gonna be underwater in 10 years, then I'm pretty sure they must be giving it away.

I know, but you said summer 2021 was difficult to rent an apartment. Given population hadn't recovered, that clearly wasn't due to demand, but artificially limited supply.

>So the Waterboard is treating more waste, but he dismisses it as just more rain. Did he try to speak to an third party to make sense of the data? Or did he just not want to make sense of the data?

There's a reliable third-party that's already confirmed his claim that NYC population was off a cliff even in the back half of 2021: The government census says NYC's population was down 400,000 in July, compared to April 2020.

I get why people don't want to accept it, but it's right there in black and white.

>Does anyone who lived through 2020 honestly believe there was not a massive influx of people back into the city in 2021 and 2022?

I know one entity that doesn't believe that; the census. It shows that population in summer 2021 was 400,000 down on April 2020.

Demand to live in NYC is depressed, likely temporarily, and right now we're losing more people than we're gaining.

I totally understand why people will do a ton of mental gymnastics to avoid accepting this fact, but it is what it is.

We like it here. That's all that matters.

And yet every time they turn up with their begging bowl, everyone on here says: "Give them the money."

It doesn't end until we start starving the beast.

Yeah but that rules out non-tiny dogs, generally.

>I love dogs but the sense of entitlement amongst dog owners in this city is crazy.

The attitude towards dogs and dog owners in this city is so odd. The fact that they're not allowed on the subway is bizarre to me, as someone from London where it's no issue.

Yeah, there are a few people near me who clearly don't pick up after their dogs, but otherwise, zero issues.