He had a fucking stroke. Yes. He's missed an "alarming amount" of votes. Surprise. Real life happens.

Find the local authorized service, like a notary that offers these services. They will guide you through the process. Relax. You don't need to figure it out.

Back in like January we got the crazy and clearly erroneous triple estimated bill. I said fuck that. I got a meter and can read it. Did so each month, paid them what I owed them based on actual usage. Haven't had an issue. No calls, no letters, we just ignored that stupid crazy bill and paid them what we used and now in March we are squared up. Just because they send you a bill for $xxx doesn't mean you have to pay it. Use common sense. They basically took advantage of the law that allows them to use estimated billing and sent out bills based on their default rate instead of the rate you are currently paying. It was a sham to collect a bunch of money they weren't owed but could legally bill, meanwhile they get to collect interest on all our money. Then when they get investigated, which they are, they will happily pay out the difference to those who paid what the bill says, pocket the interest and move on like nothing happened.

For sure. Just saying the state representative thing has worked for me.

I'd not be so nonchalant about life changing money, but that's just me.

My daughter forgot for over a year, when she renewed it didn't even charge her for the unregistered year, just current. As if it never happened.

Don't consider. Do. At one point in my life we were dealing with the same issues with unemployment and one call to my state reps office, gave them my info, and magically I didn't even have to call the UI office, they called me, said everything was taken care of and I started receiving checks within a week. This was in Indiana not PA. But the basic factors are the same.

I don't think you'll find it more affordable in PA based on the information provided. You should also prepare yourself for a property you look at being considerably older, attached to other homes (look up row homes in PA), and the overall quality of the homes is much much lower because they are much much older. Rent for a decent place even in rural areas an hour outside of Philly, etc.. can still run $1500/mo. Newer built communities like condos easily run $2k/mo. You can certainly find less expensive places but I've seen a few that were barely habitable still asking $900/mo.

The home quality and conveniences you are used to seeing in AZ as the "status quo" will be a very expensive high rent place in PA generally speaking.

PA was basically built in the beginning of the start of the country, Arizona at the end. It's common for the place you are looking at to be 100+ years old with antiquated electric/plumbing/heating/cooling and smaller size-wise, lots of stairs, poor use of space... limited or no parking... unless it's new construction, in which case it will be more expensive yet.

Having lived in multiple states across the US and traveled a lot for work across the entire US. I will never move back to PA once we leave. It's just too old, too conservative, too expensive to be worth it compared to all the options.

They did upgrade it to a digital meter, but I feel like I've been seeing a guy walk around and read it anyways. Dunno to be precise. Are they all now connected to cellular towers? It is possible we don't have a meter reader anymore.

This is why PPL is the only bill I don't have set up on autopay.

My bill is usually around $120 during the time they "estimated". Their estimated bill was asking for $380. I was never going to pay that. I'm not a fool. I just took the meter reading and compared it to the last reading before things got messed up. Easy. What will be interesting is why they couldn't do the same thing. They pay a meter reader anyways. The system wasn't so messed up that guy couldn't make it out to read the meters. Something smells like poop in their explanation. There's no logical way my estimated bill would have been that high and it didn't take a data scientist to see that.

Sounds like they are abusing their ability to bill an estimated amount by tripling the amount. I'm not doing it. I read my meter and will pay them the more accurate estimated amount. They'll get over it once they read the meter and get it correct. I don't play that game with multimillion dollar companies. I'll owe them before they'll owe me, because I can't trust them to give me my money back. I owe them for what I used not some erroneous number they came up with.

Yeah... which would be fine if they actually used my account historical usage to calculate the "estimated next bill", but they clearly didn't. The estimated amount is 3x what I typically pay in December-January.

Yeah I can't see anything I'm not joining that site.

What I don't understand is they are estimating we used nearly 2k kwh in the last month. We usually use 700 kwh in a month... they're egregiously abusing the latitude to bill an "estimated" amount. My estimated amount should be my average Jan monthly amount, not 3x that much.

How is anyone supposed to get through when they're open 8-5 and hold time is 2 hours? I'll calculate our usage and pay them what I owe them and they can figure it out from there. I'm not paying 3 months of service because they screwed up and play some game to get my money back lol, that ain't how this works jack!

Right now I don't even have a balance yet, so we will see how it goes.

I mean it's highly dependent on what is important to you. We were relocated here from Indiana for an engineering job and have lived in several other states. PA is one I won't miss when we eventually move on from here. It's basically like a lot of other states though, the cities have more liberal people/policies and then there's the rest of the state which is very red.

We are in Lancaster County, 2 miles off the turnpike, 45 minutes from West Philadelphia, 2 hours from NYC. It's mostly a bunch of Trumpers and Bible thumpers in the rural area but getting to civilization doesn't take long. You figure out how to avoid most of the locals. I'd recommend looking at the West Chester area if you have the financial means, professional job opportunities should be pretty good there and you can stay out of hicktown and avoid the Amish buggies.

Which rock are you living under? They've been scanning licenses everywhere for a long time...

Winning is defined as who got the most votes. Not who claims they won. We grew out of that kind of behavior around what, 4th grade? Like the whole claiming you won when you lost is about the most fundamentally childish thing you can do.

You don't know who you voted for or if you voted at all?

This is how the apocalypse starts... Lol

The OP should just know, until he gets current he is going to get pulled over for put of date stickers. I've even had the cops knock and wake me up because my car parked in front of my house on the street had an out of date sticker. Told me to avoid a ticket I had to park it somewhere off the street until it was current. I had simply forgotten about it.

They should give you a sticker that has today's date and lasts a year. But I've also read you can only get it redone as much as two months in advance of the expiration on the current stickers too.

My kid enjoys collecting the old plates from states we have lived in.

You don't need to premeasure the liquid. Use the fill line on the pot. Pre-measuring is only necessary if you A. don't have a fill line on the pot or B. are trying to fry a bird larger than the recommended size for the pot.

Also corn on the cob and buttermilk biscuits after the turkey fat has Infused the oil. Oh yes...