What-Fries-Beneath

What-Fries-Beneath t1_jak8reh wrote

If you leave philosophy and spirituality out of it there is no debate on the definition of consciousness. It isn't that complicated.

>Consciousness is an internal representation of the world which incorporates an awareness of self. It's a dynamic computation of self in the world.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/homing-in-on-consciousness-in-the-nervous-system-an-actionbased-synthesis/2483CA8F40A087A0A7AAABD40E0D89B2

Plenty of citations in that paper for you to explore the idea from a scientific perspective. Edit: also plenty of experiments.

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What-Fries-Beneath t1_jak53gl wrote

I'm not a researcher in the space, just a big fan. That there are levels of consciousness is very well evidenced. Essentially each level is a layer of dynamic awareness. One of those layers is an awareness of self, and self in the world. It's the HOW that's under investigation not so much the "what". https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/homing-in-on-consciousness-in-the-nervous-system-an-actionbased-synthesis/2483CA8F40A087A0A7AAABD40E0D89B2

People like to muddy the question with philosophy and spirituality.

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What-Fries-Beneath t1_jak4iwk wrote

>I'll say up top, there is no manner to answer anything you have put forth in regards to consciousness until there is a definition for consciousness.

Please stop saying this. Consciousness is an internal representation of the world which incorporates an awareness of self. It's a dynamic computation of self in the world. I wish people would stop saying "we don't have a definition of consciousness". There are questions around exactly how it arises. However there are some extremely well evidenced theories. My personal favorite is Action Based Consciousness.

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What-Fries-Beneath t1_jak44fb wrote

>Because we can put a human in an environment with zero external visual and auditory stimuli

Do that for a few days and that human will never recover full cognitive function. https://www.google.com/books/edition/Sensory_Deprivation/1tBZauKc4GUC

Anyways completely aside from the particulars of this discussion: "Identical to humans" isn't the bar.

>No LLM is capable of producing a signal lacking a very specific input ; this fact does differentiate all animals from all LLM's.

Because we're meat-based. Our neurons kill themselves without input. They stimulate each other nearly constantly to maintain connections. Some regions generate waves of activity to maintain/strengthen/prune connections, etc. Saying that electronic systems need to evidence the same activity is like saying "Birds are alive. Bears can't fly, therefore they are dead."

Consciousness is an internal representation of the world which incorporates an awareness of self. It's a dynamic computation of self in the world. I wish people would stop saying "we don't have a definition of consciousness". There are questions around exactly how it arises. However there are some extremely well evidenced theories. My personal favorite is Action Based Consciousness.

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What-Fries-Beneath t1_j8zjjj8 wrote

>Sir, when you look across the world, do you feel like governments have your best interest at heart?

To some extent yes. In most democratic governments most of the people are just ordinary folk who rather than building lives around power and influence, they wanted a steady job with decent benefits. They have families which are more important to them than their 9-5. They don't want their friends and families with similarly modest lives to get fucked by the rich and powerful right and left.

Granted many->most politicians are narcissistic douchebags. Nearly ALL aspiring CEOs are narcissistic douchebags. Especially in finance. "My greatest dream is to get rich quick while providing minimal value". That's the sociopathic motto of finance.

>money that can’t be corrupted by 12 people around a table in Washington.

You prefer less people with zero oversight and far less accountability...

>The beautiful thing is that the market will decide over time.

The libertarian religion isn't beautiful to most of us. It has been resoundingly disproven by history. Regulations are written in blood.

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What-Fries-Beneath t1_j8z8b6h wrote

McDonalds gift card for a day which I would exchange for a burger. I might take the money I would otherwise have spent and invest it in some vehicle which offers some degree of oversight/regulation, for example a mutual fund, bond, or currency stake, and the backing of a powerful entity like say a government.

As opposed to "investing" in this week's comp sci program dropout's first live software project based on an ultimately insignificant, artificially and nearly arbitrarily derived slice of an infinite distribution of numbers in geometric space.

The day shitcoins truly have utility is the day they become indistinguishable from "real" money with all the regulations, transparency, and backing of currency, investment, and banking today. Until then they're just a ponzi treadmill

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What-Fries-Beneath t1_j8iskyu wrote

Technically full stack includes front end. So really it all depends on how well someone actually understands that layer. Like I know some dev-ops and some ml-ops, but to do dedicated either I'd need a fair bit of work.

Ultimately it depends on the job requirements. Some places you'd be fine just knowing react, css, typescript, etc. No matter your title if you stay on the surface like that you stay junior.

Dedicated senior front end should really understand how browsers actually work. Should be able to build various libraries and frameworks using raw js, but know to avoid that if at all possible. Should have worked with at least a few ui-frameworks. Should understand workers, sockets, events, shadow dom, css build as part of or separate from webpack build, webpack build, canvas, various common patterns for handling async like observables/promises/acid, functional and OOP, render cycles, debouncing, various local storage/cookie based ish, typescript, node, etc.

Really the main thing is about learning how to handle complex, non-linear state. Everything I mentioned is about state, and most apps need to be rearchitected from scratch because the designs are different. Unless you're working on boring stuff hahah.

Then there's all the design and UX stuff one should be at least a little familiar with.

And if you want to do web specifically there's a bunch of ish for that. You can build internal apps with the above.

>Have you experienced this kind of career change?

Hmm well I started out a barely trained full stack dev, then went nearly dedicated front end for a few years, so kinda? Front end is more complicated and takes constant work to stay on top of. That's what makes it fun. And also terrible and I'm never going back no matter how much people keep asking irl.

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What-Fries-Beneath t1_j8fi2il wrote

People go in the other direction because front end development is challenging and fun, but absolutely HORRIBLE work to do for other people on teams where everyone else is late/lazy and you have to constantly pick up the slack: for less money, and far less respect.

Edit: It's important to mention just how awful it is to have everyone tell you how "easy" and "simple" things are because they're so familiar with the output. If you want to get stabbed come say something like "it's just a calendar" to me in person.

- Front end dev who "retired" to mathy stuff.

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What-Fries-Beneath t1_j8czuvj wrote

In the least gender biased countries women tend to choose more people oriented work, and men gravitate towards math and machines.

Check my post history if you care to. I am a huge advocate of degendering everything. Biologically personality and sex are correlated to a significant degree. Less than most people seem to think, but again it's significant.

Women in general around the world don't want to spend 60 hours a week coding. No bias needed. I know some incredibly talented data scientists who happen to be women. It would be great if more people in general took an interest to the field.

But please let's stop assuming that industries are discriminating based on little more than enrolment

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