Top-Royal6249
Top-Royal6249 t1_iujujxz wrote
Reply to comment by Financial-Agency3322 in What is morality in the absence of religion? by mambosun_
> Adam and Eve were the first ENSOULED humans, not necessarily the literal first two hominids to ever exist on the face of the earth.
So what happened to all of the other hominids who were the same species as Adam and Eve? Did they all just suddenly die? Or did they stop reproducing, or what?
Top-Royal6249 t1_iuju7rb wrote
Reply to comment by Financial-Agency3322 in What is morality in the absence of religion? by mambosun_
How is "why wouldn't he make us fully understanding of morals" not a real question? Just because it's causing you discomfort that you can't think of an answer?
Top-Royal6249 t1_iujp9na wrote
Reply to comment by Financial-Agency3322 in What is morality in the absence of religion? by mambosun_
Did you mean to reply to someone else? You didn't address my question at all.
Top-Royal6249 t1_iujp80r wrote
Reply to comment by Financial-Agency3322 in What is morality in the absence of religion? by mambosun_
Sounds like you might be a sociopath if you only do things out of self-preservation without caring about others.
Top-Royal6249 t1_iujok1d wrote
Reply to comment by Financial-Agency3322 in What is morality in the absence of religion? by mambosun_
So God "stamped moral character into our conscience" but just half-assed it, or what? Why wouldn't he make us fully conscious of the full breadth in his stamping?
Top-Royal6249 t1_iujoete wrote
Reply to comment by Schulze_II26 in What is morality in the absence of religion? by mambosun_
> People with no moral basis in religion conclude that morality is subjective. Which is wrong, it is very objective. No society or people past or present has ever tolerated a thief for example.
Thieves tolerate thieves. There are entire organizations of organized thieves.
I don't think you know what the terms "subjective" and "objective" mean. Even if it were true that all humans find thievery to be wrong, that still doesn't make it an issue of objectivity.
Top-Royal6249 t1_iujo2c5 wrote
Reply to comment by Greatest_of_Jimmies in What is morality in the absence of religion? by mambosun_
> The idea that atheists are somehow less moral than believers is incorrect and downright stupid. There is absolutely no data to support the idea that atheists as a group are any less moral than any other randomly chosen group of people.
inb4 somebody points out the actions of atheist dictators, fallaciously focusing on body counts by a small handful of atheists rather than the actions of each individual atheist on Earth on average.
Top-Royal6249 t1_iujlvte wrote
Reply to comment by Financial-Agency3322 in What is morality in the absence of religion? by mambosun_
>Adam & Eve being the first humans does not go against the theory of evolution.
Yes, it absolutely does. Given evolution, there is no such thing as "the first two humans from whom all others descend."
As humans evolved from our ancestors we share with gorillas and bonobos, etc. - by the time there were two people in existence, there were TONS of people in existence, all having more humans. Not just two.
>The Great Flood was not a worldwide event. But it did happen.
I can't believe you actually believe the nonsense about collecting two of every animal aboard a giant boat. Like how the fuck does a human brain still think that.
Top-Royal6249 t1_iujldwu wrote
Reply to comment by Financial-Agency3322 in What is morality in the absence of religion? by mambosun_
>Man has an indelible moral character stamped on his conscience by the Creator - this much is true.
Then why do humans disagree so much on matters of morality? If morality is written into us by God, wouldn't all humans universally agree on every moral topic?
Top-Royal6249 t1_iujl6vw wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in What is morality in the absence of religion? by mambosun_
Then you two would disagree. What else are you looking for in an answer?
Top-Royal6249 t1_iujl0gk wrote
Reply to comment by enginearz in What is morality in the absence of religion? by mambosun_
If God wrote morals into our design, why do humans disagree so much on what is moral and what isn't? Wouldn't we all universally agree on every moral issue?
Top-Royal6249 t1_iujkqvr wrote
Reply to comment by bumpy-ride in What is morality in the absence of religion? by mambosun_
Lol as if religions aren't made up.
Top-Royal6249 t1_iujkn8v wrote
Reply to comment by Lama_adventuures in What is morality in the absence of religion? by mambosun_
It's not that mankind "invents" it, as if everyone gathers around a table and talks out what is moral and what isn't, it's that we evolved as social/tribal animals, whereby empathy was evolutionarily advantageous, which is why most of us have an aversion to things like murdering people, hurting others, etc. We see senses of empathy/"morality" even in lab mice.
Yes, it is conceivable/possible that humanity could continue to evolve, and somehow lose our social/tribal instincts, thus no longer naturally find murder to be wrong to do, but I would highly doubt that would ever happen.
Top-Royal6249 t1_iujurh2 wrote
Reply to comment by enginearz in What is morality in the absence of religion? by mambosun_
There are HUGE disagreements about human life itself: Abortion, death penalty, assisted suicide, "stand your ground" laws, war, on and on. These aren't small issues.
And even if it were only small issues we disagree on, why would we disagree at all, if God wrote morality into us?