Yeah it's like the feature is designed to be marketable but not to have any real utility.

Someone could have also replaced the camera module. I don't think the screen is the only official part that can cause them to nerf the phone.

For what it's worth, this shouldn't be legal. People should be allowed to repair their devices with independent source parts. If you can only get something fixed by the company that makes it, that's a s***** dystopian society where nobody actually owns anything

Sometimes they nerf it. If people replace the cameras or screen. They call it a safety feature, but it's often seen as an effort to undermine independent repair.

But that's just speculation, there could be infinite reasons why it's not working in your case. But if you bought it used or refurbished, it's probably some kind of software lock to the camera and it needs to be either the original camera that came with the phone or repaired by Apple so they can connect it m

Yeah well actually the real reason had failed was because Windows on arm failed. That's why they canceled the neo and then the last minute they tried to shoehorn the duo onto Android.

And you're right it was a mess.

But it was really just a last-minute hail Mary. They actually designed these products to be used on a Windows mobile operating system on arm and that is what failed

Microsoft has just not been able to get arm-based mobile products right. Not only do they cancel the neo and the windows 10x operating system, but the surface pro x, Windows phone

All of that said you can find the surface duo OG for 250 brand new come in '99 for a grade C used.

It's absolutely worth it just as a e-reader alone.

Yeah I don't think I would ever buy a full prize Microsoft product again. I mean at least not on a high end device.

The only way I would ever consider something like that is if I was finding a crazy deal on the resale market.

I wouldn't spend over $1,000 on a surface pro 9. I'd like the form factor but I just don't trust the company.

But if I could find a surface pro 6 for 250 bucks on Woot or something that's basically the only way I would patronize Microsoft flagship products anymore.

Yeah I'm sure if he reads this post he will try to claim this foldable is technically still part of that plan or something.

But it doesn't really pass the credibility test.

Windows Central guys obviously depend on Microsoft for virtually 90% of their news and access so I always take anything they say with a grain of salt. Whether it's subconscious or fanboyism or just survival for there product, they're really never going to be super critical of Microsoft for an active product.

Zac it's already essentially accepting Microsoft's claims that face value that they're committed to Android which seems extremely dubious on its face.

I don't mean to be too critical, I enjoy their podcast occasionally. There's a niche, if you are interested in some of these unique devices there's not that much coverage since all the YouTubers basically just talk about Apple or Samsung all the time.

But they're not going to bite the hands that feeds them. Even if they try to be objective, survival and subconscious bias would probably get in the way

Yeah I mean all the major consumer tech problems have done a fair share of this. Google is known for abandoning software not so much hardware. They do abandon hardware too but Microsoft has a much longer grave site list when it comes to abandon hardware then Google. Google basically just has the pixelbook and the pixel slate.

Microsoft has the duo, the zune, surface pro x, the neo, basically every arm-based mobile product I've ever made has been abandoned, The windows phone.... The surface book appears to be dead. Continuum..

Honestly, it's actually less weird than a foldable when you think about it.

It's just two screens which is much more simple of a concept than having one foldable screen with a giant crease in the middle and then one front screen.

I just think because Samsung has such a higher market share it's sort of become the norm. But even the norm in the foldable market is less than 1% of Samsung's market share so either way these are weird niche products.

But it's a shame. Honestly I think LG did it the best with the v60 which had a dual screen case accessory that you could use or choose to leave at home.

But either way it's pretty tragic that no dual screen phones will be on the market.

It's a thoughtful gift. My dad died when I was 14. You should treasure it.

Well that rules out an iPhone.

I think it's because all IEMs can be gaming Iems. At least with analog connections.

There are definitely some true wireless earbuds that have low latency modes and RGB and our advertised as gaming.

But I think gamers would be fine with tin t2s, or kbear ks1 or something

Well these things have planned obsolescence anyways. I think the odds are the wear and tear. Probably won't kill the product before the battery goes.

You should be able to handle a little sweat but yes it will add some wear and tear to the pads. Unless it's an incredible amount of sweat. It probably won't f****** with the electronics.

I don't understand, is there an age limit where you can't lend your parents IEMs?

You might get used to it..

Dhrme sometimes does reviews where they try to present the quality of the active noise cancellation. I don't know how effective that is on YouTube, but they might be able to help you out with data that is not merely taking their word for it.

As a general rule, I feel like most name brand, higher end TWS have passable active noise cancellation these days. It's always hard to rely on anecdotes because people get super partisan.

I think the idea that we are in a new modern era of IEMs is mostly marketing gobledygook.

It's designed to try to get people to buy newest stuff at the highest cost they will ever be. Even though, this stuff doesn't have software or batteries and the real value proposition is buying stuff that didn't come out in the last year

But the algorithm, and the affiliate links don't reward that time of judicious consumer approach.

So we have to pretend that we're in some golden age and you have to buy stuff that came out in the last three months.

I don't really think they have been forgotten. At least not by regular users. They have been forgotten by YouTubers because they need to sell you the newest stuff from the same company.

They create a fallacy then all of a sudden IEM tech has never been better and you have to buy stuff made in the last year or you're missing out

I think the opposite is true. I think the best value proposition is buying something like tin t2. Would you can now off and find on discount.

A lot of people have been pumped about rode n100. Some people would swear by Bayer Dynamics.

We don't listen to music we just go shopping for headphones.

If you want to find people that actually listen to music probably go to a musician subreddit. Did the Venn diagram of musicians and headphone enthusiast barely intersects for some reason.

Those that can't do, buy expensive headphones ;)