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Sufficient-Job-1013 t1_je29ne0 wrote

I’m 1000% against the GOP and don’t support almost anything they do and this is clearly a stunt.

That said, I’m deeply frustrated and disappointed with the Council because they are doing NOTHING. They have almost zero public presence, they have NO ideas to address problems, they have no follow through on systems in place, and worst of all they don’t take any ownership of their role in the problems we are facing.

We seem paralyzed in search of how to do criminal justice reform. Far leftists are unhinged and their policies are absurd and out of touch. Far rightists are unhinged and their policies are psychotic. We need some leaders to step up and bring some reasonable ideas in the interim until we figure out how to hold criminals accountable without being completely racist.

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Sufficient-Job-1013 t1_j769awc wrote

I don’t think we disagree about much. We both agree unhoused people need more support from governments. I agree it’s problematic to clear the camp away without some kind of alternative placement. But I’d imagine some of those people have declined some services, declined shelters, declined help.

Saying that I want them to die out of sight is very uncharitable and untrue. They are already dying because they live in tents and are often using drugs/alcohol. It’s not safe to live like that and they are less accessible to support services. Pretending that you have the most humane take by letting people live outside year round, well, that’s kinda crazy.

We need to beef up shelter services and make sure they are allowed to get treatment there.

But you can’t live outside in the middle of a city. You are doing so much mental acrobatics to rationalize such. Go to SF and see if you think that’s a sustainable path. It’s not.

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Sufficient-Job-1013 t1_j72p2nt wrote

They are allowed to use drugs in their tents but not in shelters. This isn’t a judgement, I love drugs, but the fact is an overwhelming majority of unhoused people have substance abuse issues and shelters do not allow it. I agree the shelters need to do something to accommodate people and meet them where they are. People also need to be willing to get treatment if substance abuse is a problem that interferes with their ability to participate in society.

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Sufficient-Job-1013 t1_j72okmm wrote

Hard agree. This is just wild. People defending the right to live in parks are only virtue signaling, pretending to be helping. Living in a tent in the middle of a city is a problem, letting it continue is complaisance and tacitly giving up on addressing it.

We need to fix the root cause but in the meantime you can’t live in public spaces.

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Sufficient-Job-1013 t1_isvohxc wrote

I’m 100% not a fan of Charles Allen but I can admit the changes you cite here are better than what I’d heard they were planning. This does inspire some confidence.

I was concerned they were trying to get rid of strict penalties for rape and other sexual assault charges.

Hopefully Allen realizes that defunding the police isn’t actually going to help reduce crime, no matter how much we would all love that to be the case.

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