Suburbs-suck

Suburbs-suck t1_j2fajwg wrote

I’m not exactly sure what there is to say, I personally have my head on a swivel, I don’t personally see that many pedestrians acting irresponsibly compared to other places, and the evidence suggests that cars pose a danger to pedestrians.

That being said, it’s not really possible to engage further if all you have is your own personal experience and your attempts to psycho analyze pedestrians.

I’m personally far more concerned with the behavior of drivers in this city.

10

Suburbs-suck t1_j2ew4w7 wrote

There’s is absolutely no evidence to suggest that creating bike lanes results in the displacement of brown and black people. This is just the standard concern trolling that people find annoying.

The people who are advocating for better public transportation, bike lanes, and walkability are advocating for better accessibility for everyone, not just the city center. Countries like the Netherlands demonstrate how this works.

Furthermore, with your last paragraph, we have arrived at the standard talking points about gram gram, families having to make giant shopping trips. The first and most obvious rebuttal is that the overwhelming majority of drivers aren’t on the road for those reasons, they are on the road being they just kinda feel like it.

There are a number of great studies that I can link that delve specifically into why people actually get into their cars, which I can link if you are interested.

Finally, pretty much every city that has banned cars in major parts of their city has built in exceptions for people making deliveries, moving, emergency vehicles, etc so in the rare case you are actually using your vehicle, you will be able to do so without having a bunch of other people slowing you down with their pointless car trips.

It also goes without saying that investment public transportation, bike lanes, and walkability makes those options a faster and more efficient than sitting in traffic for an hour.

P.S There is a certain irony of someone who is defending Americas car obsession calling other people “angry, loud, and entitled”.

13

Suburbs-suck t1_j2ehzx8 wrote

Better biking infrastructure benefits everyone, including people who don’t bike and the public transportation that you purport to care about.

This is something that places like the Netherlands have figured out.

Not so fun fact: black and Hispanic cyclists have close to a 30% higher fatality rate than white cyclists, in part because of people refusing to invest in better bike infrastructure.

12

Suburbs-suck t1_j2e5de8 wrote

This is a classic example of “when you’re used to privilege, equality feels like oppression”.

The degree to which people have subsidized cars is astronomical. If anything the problem is that parking isn’t expensive enough. If having a car is that important to you than it’s time you start paying your fair share.

14