"I took the evening shift and its dark out when I get off, we should all wake up an hour earlier do it can still be dark when I get off anyway"

I don't think I've ever met someone who didn't either work shifts that would be completely separate from DST changes, or whose office was flexible at least within a half hour.

actually no. have you not looked at stats comparing people on one end of the time zone to the other? or stats comparing the non-DST state's energy use (Arizona) to the rest of the country during DST? There's evidence also we basically never recover from DST changes. We just fuck our sleep for years

exactly why we shouldn't make permanent DST, plenty of deaths, goes against the natural order of circadian rhythms?

yeah but the average american also doesn't drop their kids off at school or walk a dog or bike either. And that still would leave, as I noted, a 15m flex time so that could easily be a 30m commute.

up at 7:30, 15m to walk the dog, 15m to get your kids to school, a half hour bike ride, and then a 15m walk to work? still leaves 15m in there to flex between things

what you have meetings that go to exactly 4:30 so you're limited strictly by dst for one whole hour of extra light?

because it'll be bad for you too, because it has serious negative effects on sleep quality, indirectly on things like cancer rates, accident rates, increased energy use, etc.... most of the scientific community is against it for a reason.

given even the latest sunrises are at 730, you've easily got enough time for a lot of that

Why wouldnt it work?

And because the movement make DST permanent is real and stupid. Congress nearly passed that dumb shit. We tried it in the 70s and repealed it within 3 years because it was awful. Making everyone wake up earlier is a dumb decision and throwing circadian rhythms to hell just for fun is dumb

so wake up earlier and get off earlier. stop fucking up the world for everyone else

... you could just wake up earlier and start working earlier rather than making everyone else do it

because a lot of folks rightfully don't want it because it's awful and has a shitload of negative effects on you.