Whatever you say, buddy. I like to debate. It's fun. That doesn't mean that it has a heavy impact on me, lmao. But the fun thing about you being a stranger on the internet is that you can think whatever you want about me and it doesn't have any potential to change anything in my life. But sure. Keep talking about the made-up internet points in your pretentious echo chamber.

Embarrassing? I'm not embarrassed by anonymous conversations on the internet. This has no impact on my actual life. It's just a time killer between tasks, responsibilities, and activities. As I told somebody else in this thread, made-up internet points mean absolutely nothing to me. I already left this sub, so a ban wouldn't impact me at all, and even if I hadn't, it's one sub out of countless subs that I can join. Shit, I could be banned from all of reddit, and I would just find a different way to kill some time. This is just a good time, lmao. I'm having fun. That's why most of us engage in leisure activities.

I could say the same to you. Why do you people keep responding while acting like anyone doing the same has some kind of problem? Are you just obsessed with getting the last word? At least I'm actually making a point. You can't even manage legitimate conversation or discourse. So go if you want to go. I'm perfectly content doing as I am to irritate you.

It can't be a "lesser" version when the comment was "Why read at all?" They're definitely getting more than the nothing that was suggested. And it's not good or bad to value any part of these made-up, nonexistent stories and fake people. You could never pick up any piece of fiction, and it wouldn't matter. Beyond the enjoyment that you get out of them, they are utterly worthless. So let people do what they want. This thread is gatekeeping bullshit, and this sub is pretentious as fuck.

Yes. The ever so offensive "let people enjoy things" shouldn't go unpunished, lmao.

That's too bad. You'd clean up. There are more ways than one to enjoy absolutely everything. There is more than one way to draw a picture. There is more than one way to enjoy a movie. There is more than one way to enjoy a book. It's not a waste of time to do something that they enjoy just because you wouldn't enjoy it that way. To ask, "Why even read?" Is pretentious and absurd.

No, it's not. People are allowed to enjoy things in a way that you don't enjoy them. That's my point. Are you competing in some kind of "out pretentious the other guy" contest?

The question. They read it because they enjoy it. How they choose to enjoy it is irrelevant. Let me give you a comparison. I draw. When I'm drawing a character, I'll start with JUST the human form in whatever position I'm drawing it in. Then, layer by layer, I add everything else. But if someone skipped drawing the form first, I wouldn't say, "Why even draw at all, then?" Just because someone is doing something differently than you doesn't make it a waste of time. Or, if somebody gets up in the middle of a movie to use the restroom or grab a snack, is there no point in finishing the movie? "Why even watch the movie, then?"

I skim sometimes, mostly unintentionally. If I get too excited or a really long description comes up, I'll (sometimes) start to skim.

This is absurd.

I had a two year relationship in high school. A lot of people have relationships in high school. Is it the same as an adult relationship? No, but they do happen, and it feels intense and real at the time.

Should I watch the show, then? Like I said, I do like the overall story. So if the show makes it, you know, actually enjoyable, maybe I should give that a shot. Lol.

It's weird because I wasn't always like this with books, lol. I honestly can't say when it started.

I mean, if I immediately decided I didn't like it on page one, I wouldn't care. The issue is you can't really know if you'll enjoy it that soon, and by the time I'm like, "this is irredeemable," it's too late, lol. So essentially, the first page, I guess.

That's the thing, though. I know I'm not getting anything out of it simply because I'm not enjoying it. It just feels like something I NEED to do. It doesn't feel like a choice. If I have a book that I've started and haven't finished, it gnaws at me like a sink full of dishes. Idk why, but it sucks, lmao. The bright side is that I'm a fast reader, always have been. So, at least it doesn't take me too long. The worst was The Shining. I despised that book! I found it soooo boring. I was losing my mind!

Dialogue was a part of my issue, as well. Sometimes, it would just stop me dead in my tracks, especially at a part with long stretches of it. And that's exactly it. I like the overall story, and it touches on important topics, but the characters just weren't believable and made it difficult to thoroughly enjoy. This is the only book I've read by her, though, so I can't say anything regarding others.

Man, I wish I could do that with books. It's weird. It's like an OCD thing. When I start it, I need to finish it. If I'm having trouble getting through it, I'll assign a specific number of pages to read every single day until it's done. My husband said the other day that I looked like I was reading a book that I HAD to read, like for school, not one that I actually wanted to read, lol. That's how it felt, too.

That's what I posted, too!

I have the collectors edition of "Shadow and Bone," and it looks absolutely beautiful. Most of my books aren't very nice, so for me that one is gorgeous!