Nah. You are paying for their labor in either scenario.

I never said anything about the customer. Did you read my post? Do corporate businesses pay particularly well? Im advocating for the worker here.

Right?!

Its just so fascinating.

Man that strawman line, so funny!

Good day to you, friend!

Nothing.

I cant tell if you are being pedantic, or just a jerk but that is how it would work. The bill would be higher to cover higher labour costs so that a higher than living wage would be achieved tipping would be eliminated. Yes? Fuck the system? All for it dude I want these things. But i dont want these things until the mechanism is there to enforce them. We are in america, i dont see it happening for a long long time.

Lol your taking what i said and trying to explain it back to me and calling me obtuse. We are saying the same thing. You are really toxic dude. Maybe try therapy? You are losing it.

So they are raising prices just like I said on my original post. Im really not sure why you keep talking about this, nor why you are so condescending. Im not the smartest guy, but its a pretty simple and old concept. I understand how the economics work. I agree most people will not have a problem with paying more in the overall bill with the trade off that there will be no responsibility to tip. I do have an issue with the idea that this will work with no mechanism to make sure the owners will not find fuck with the money, such as raising the price 20% giving employees 15%.

You litterally said “but they are not raising prices” lol

So they are gonna pay 20% of gross receipts to waitstaff and not raise prices? Ok buddy love to hear how you expect that to work. Waited tables for over a decade, the percentage of folks who stiffed me was less then a quarter of a percent. Cooking, I gave up so much of my life and got so little in return. If my business fails I know I can return to waiting tables and be ok. I am not concerned with the history of tipping, I just know that the combined history of the system of american labor has lead us to the point where waiting tables is my only other viable skill to rely on. I dont know why you are being so hostile.

Most of the world that would appeal to americans have fair labor standards and pay living wages. Waiting tables is one of the few jobs in the us that you can pick up easily(yes it is hard work) and make a decent and fair living to support a family. By doing away with tipping you are counting on the same bosses who do not pay fair wages to then raise prices to match the earnings of waitstaff and then be honest and actually give that to waitstaff.

And before the braves moved out after years of terrible play we had the yankees farm team. If we go down to single a that would be fine too. We cant make terrible financial decisions based on fear of change.

And yet not only does the flying squirrels have the best attendence in their league, they have much better attendance than norfolk in their fancy new stadium. I think many inprovements could be made to inprove the property but a total tear down is a waste of taxpayer money. Richmond has a ton of other problems that would be better served with that money.

I think its that your points are so fucking stupid people are pissed they have to respond.

You have talked to these people? Global warming is vastly impacted by the industrialized production of meat. You know who suffers the most from the effects of global warming? People living in the 3rd world. Take your self righteous bullshit elsewhere.

I am not. Also, This is my of work. If i get injured or something similar, i have no skill to fall back on. Quit yourbullshit.

I always made bank waiting tables when I was making below minumum wages, but when I was cooking running the kitchen, responsible for all the ordering and scheduling I still didnt make nearly what I made waiting tables.

If this is true its illegal. If you take away tips how do you plan on making employers pay more? Waiting tables is one of the few jobs left that can afford unskilled workers a good income.