PG-Glasshouse

PG-Glasshouse t1_j99gwbu wrote

> Not only is school funded by taxes, parents are compelled to send their kids even if it’s against their will.

So everything about school is handled by the government, except for this which is managed as a business.

Why is this specifically managed as a business when all the other aspects are taxpayer funded?

When you take a public institution and privatize aspects of it you are deregulating those aspects by transferring control from the government to private entities.

> What it actually is, is regulation trying to fix regulation trying to fix regulation.

Privatization is not an example of regulation. The public school system is not a wild capitalist horse yearning to be free, it was designed as a social service. You are turning a social service into a business, not freeing a business from the stifles of regulation.

> It has nothing to do with capitalism tho.

The private company providing lunches that parents have to pay money to under penalty of the aforementioned, so that it can generate a profit in exchange for goods and services… is not capitalism?

> It’s the state assumimg power that was never granted.

Say the line SovCit.

p.s. you are being detained

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PG-Glasshouse t1_j99fpdp wrote

> Negative. All of it not true. I’m involved in local government and your claim is unsubstantiated, the figures you provided are not factual.

Please do not lie.

The figures I provided are not “factual” because they are representations of values that only need to be larger or smaller to prove the point. They are not designed to be exact values pulled from your specific middle schools financial report. If the lunch program cost 70% of the budget, cuts to education would still quickly move to negate the savings of privatization. Let’s call it an 80% cut because the specific numbers in that example literally do not matter. No matter how much money is saved by privatization it will never make up the shortfall created by continuing to cut even more education funding and it isn’t supposed to.

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PG-Glasshouse t1_j99ebpt wrote

> They have no choice to charge for food.

This is untrue, no part of our education system being underfunded is because the money is not there.

It does not matter how much is privatized because the budget will always get cut further and no savings will materialize. It’s two pincers of the same claw.

Lunch accounts for 0.25% of the schools cost? Well the parents are now paying that 0.25% and funding was cut by another 3%. I guess we better find something else to privatize since funding is so low and we need more money to pay salaries.

This is the goal of privatization and the means by which it captures public institutions. It never stops.

A. Divert taxes from school funding through lobbying.

B. All of a sudden schools can’t afford materials/expertise (this creates the inadequacies in the education system you mentioned).

C. Introduce a private entity that will alleviate funding shortages through providing some of these things by charging parents directly and make a killing doing it.

D. Lobby to cut funding for education again so you can do it all over.

Congratulations you have “solved” a problem with capitalism.

The state ended 2021 with a 14% surplus, the surplus is currently sitting at over 3 billion for this fiscal year. CT is not a state short on money.

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PG-Glasshouse t1_j99aqtb wrote

School is funded by taxes. This one aspect of school (lunches) is not funded by taxes, it is run as a business. That is an example of deregulation not regulation. That aspect run as a business is conveniently provided with a legal mechanism that can remove children from their families if they can’t come up with enough money for the product.

What you are observing here is a private entity, that abuses the legal system to do what capitalism does best. Shoot the free market in the back of the head because a free market isn’t the most profitable kind of market and so capitalism does not need it. These laws were written for a reason and it wasn’t to provide regulation.

My question is instead of a system that destroys families if they can’t satisfy the profit motive, why don’t we just cover lunch with taxes too? With what money? The same money we’re spending to commission a new fighter even though the F-35 just rolled off the line.

When the government does something because capitalism has bought your representatives that thing isn’t the government it’s still being done by capitalism.

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PG-Glasshouse t1_j995edc wrote

> Capitalism is necessary for a free and prosperous society

We make people pay for their kids to get lunch at schools run for free by the government and if this arbitrary additional burden is too much we take their kids away. Third party vendors introduced a profit motive into giving children lunch and now you can lose parental rights if you don’t participate in their capitalism. Most of the rest of the school experience is still free, for now. Do you think capitalism will improve that too?

> corruption is not necessary and is punishable by laws on the books.

Who writes those laws? The legal system isn’t broken, it just wasn’t designed to punish the people with enough power to run it.

The people doing capitalism “wrong” are always the most successful capitalist and so they will always end up being the ones in control.

> Exchange that for a controlled monetary system. No more private enterprise. Your confusion is based purely on either irrational or uneducated biases.

Absolutely beautiful.

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PG-Glasshouse t1_j1p8e40 wrote

I think the issue here is that even when someone knows you have the right of way they’ll test you on it anyway because on the off chance you give in it’s convenient for them. People from out of state were never informed on how the game was played so they lose that contest every time which undoubtedly feels like shit.

Pro-tip, none of us have insurance that will cover a totaled BMW so despite them generally speaking being fucking assholes they have zero leverage at kickoff and they know it.

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