Over-Analyzed

Over-Analyzed t1_is27h3g wrote

I was a little over defensive. But come on? 90% of the thread is people talking about DBZ. I love the show. Every guy I knew watched it.

What happened to Native Americans is horrific. Hawaii was more politically achieved without bloodshed. The last monarch Queen Liliuokalani forbade her followers from taking action. She didn’t want any lives lost.

The culture and language has made a resurgence but there is no way to restore all that was lost. People want to move here but locals can’t afford to buy a home for their families. The average price for a family house is $1 Million. I’m a pretty social person but even I want to tell tourists not to move here. I could probably inherit my parents’ house somewhere down the line. Although I can’t imagine my heartbreak when that time comes. I don’t know if I’ll be able to get my own.

Hawaii has its issues. There’s no doubt about that. But there’s also a lot of pride that comes with it.

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Over-Analyzed t1_is1egi7 wrote

Your culture is celebrated. Hawaiian culture was banned and nearly destroyed. Also, if anyone bothered to read the article they may yet learn something. I wouldn’t be bothered by a few jokes but the entire thread of people ignorant of an entire culture? Hello Ethnocentrism my old friend.

Would you treat Native Americans with the same disrespect?

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Over-Analyzed t1_is1cq0y wrote

🤨, it’s spelled exactly the same. The lack of okina is a spelling choice on the writer. The way Hawai’i is pronounced is exactly the same. It’s also why locals refer to the island as The Big Island. The reason why the island and the state have the same name is thanks to King Kamehameha The Great who originated from The Big Island as he conquered the other islands.

Hawai’i is pronounced Ha-vye-ee. That applies to the island and the state. Everyone is too lazy to pronounce it correctly, myself included.

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Over-Analyzed t1_is09aak wrote

😐 Just because it happened to you and you’re okay with it. Doesn’t mean I have to be.

Look at the comments, aside from a small handful everyone is talking about DBZ. Don’t get me wrong, I love the show. But really? The entire thread. Uplifting news while ignoring an entire culture’s existence, history, and language. What fun!

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Over-Analyzed t1_is084ym wrote

Yeah a tourist who ignored all warnings, destroyed the reef, tried taking rocks from a heiau, and tried to pick up a sea turtle. People who are disrespectful about a culture that is close to my heart. It’s frustrating. A few jokes? Okay. But the entire thread? Really? Why is everyone so fixated on cultural ignorance? A culture that was damn nearly wiped out by Americans.

Would you be making these jokes if it were Native Americans instead?

You’re kinda proving my point. Instead of understanding the need to acknowledge other cultures. You favor ignorance and poor assumptions. It doesn’t sound like you read the article.

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Over-Analyzed t1_is06brd wrote

There’s a difference in context. Here you are given context and you and so many others ignore that context. That is ignorance. The fact that you are arguing with me shows a pride in that ignorance. Instead of understanding my frustration.

It would be no different than someone showing a Hindu temple and pointing to that symbol and claiming “Nazis were here.” They have context but ignore the cultural cues and choose their own view, dismissing any other possibility. Then have that joke repeated endlessly.

Who exactly am I grilling? I’m venting my frustrations at the ignorance of people. That instead of looking things up they assume DBZ. If you had gone through what I’m angered about then why didn’t you look things up? You’re just as ignorant as those you are frustrated with. Why do you assume?

I mean, did you even bother to read the article?

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Over-Analyzed t1_is01wei wrote

Nah, you’re trying to justify ignorance. 🤷🏻‍♂️.

I’m not saying not knowing the connection to Kamehameha the King but understanding that it’s Hawaiian and not a Japanese Animated character.

Let me ask you how you would feel if people made cheap jokes about your culture, heritage, etc? Or do you not have any connection to one in particular? Perhaps you don’t understand how tiresome ignorance of other cultures can be?

The word Haole is becoming a matter of fact. As I said, a few? Okay, but the entire thread? Really?

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Over-Analyzed t1_is01asb wrote

It literally says “on Hawaii.” If anyone actually bothered to read the article they could make the connection. I don’t understand why people pride on ignorance of another culture. But you think I would be used to it. This is below the minimum effort to understand the relation to Hawaii.

Or do you seriously think that everyone here is that ignorant of Hawaii? Do you really think they’re that stupid? Or are you projecting your own ignorance onto everyone else?

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Over-Analyzed t1_irzzu0p wrote

Not as tone deaf as the countless DBZ references people are making that are completely ignorant of Hawaiian language and culture. 🤷🏻‍♂️.

Did anyone read the article?

EDIT: nah, downvote me because I’m frustrated the entire thread is DBZ references and very few care about Hawaii. Let’s continue to ignore a culture that was suppressed and nearly wiped out of existence. 🤙🏻

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