I disagree because it's not that centralized and additionally is only able to happen because of government intervention

I am

Doesn't seem to be causing any problems

And yet we have almost zero gun crime

And that constitutes a cartel in your mind?

In the Vermont housing market? I haven't

We've seen lots of government already and it's failed. Why would more work better?

Keynes was a hack

No thanks

I don't get it :)

We don't know that, the mainstream news just says so

Do something else then

Until the opioid issue is solved this is only going to get worse

>I never said I put my faith in the government

Then why do you want them to control everything?

I don't know the intricacies of VT vs Gainesville incomes etc but my point is I lived there and there's readily available multi unit housing for prices that residents can afford, and there's not a bunch of people desperately looking for housing they can barely afford

>So? "Good paying" is relative to the region.

There's no housing crisis there so clearly it's working much better than here. You can rent a decent apartment there for 1/2 of what it would cost in Burlington, if you can even find one.

>We will not hit a McMansion saturation point in Vermont before a large portion of the population is crushed and forced out of the state. Even then, it may never happen. You place too much faith in the free market

You place too much faith in the government, which has never managed a housing market well. There's really not that many people who can afford a mcmansion in this state so I think it would shake out pretty quickly

>We haven't reached that saturation point. Not even close.

Exactly, my point is we need to allow more building to occur if we want to drive down housing costs on the long term.

>How does the average income in Gainesville compare to the price of that "affordable" housing? Might not be affordable to the locals.

It's a university town with a huge hospital system supplying many good paying jobs

A Vermont housing cartel?

Not addressing my point that if more housing existed the price would go down. That's still true

So you're telling me that when there's more abundance of something the price doesn't go down? Also nothing in our economy reflects cost, it's all about profit.

>Big developers will just keep building McMansions that will get bought by investors to become high prices rentals

That only happens until there's not enough people with enough money to rent or buy them. The last time I saw affordable rentals being built by developers was last year in Gainesville Florida where housing is significantly less expensive than Vermont and there is more supply than demand

Nope, let them build those until it's no longer profitable (wouldn't be long in VT) then they'll move on to other housing types. The solution to a problem caused by government regulations is not more/different government regulations

They'll build what the market demands. Maybe the market also needs more high end homes and those make the most so they'd be built first, however there's only so many people who can pay for those so that market would become saturated. You can make money building more affordable housing too so they'd do that also

Just let the developers build. That's it, they'll fill the market need if government gets out of the way

She 100 percent should take a lesson. It's not as easy as you think to teach someone the basics

That would not work, especially in the current day with availability of online reviews and the shortage of available labor. If you rip off customers they will leave poor reviews, leading to decreased business. Rip off employees and they will leave for a better situation.

>Your restaurant might have good profit margins, and you can still be clueless about what it takes to run a good restaurant

That's just a terribly stupid assertion. The margins are notoriously low in the restaurant industry so if you don't have a solid understanding of how to operate one you won't have high profit margins outside of very specific conditions such as captive audiences(pizza places in Vermont don't qualify). So if you care to fill me in on the non-germaine reasons I'm wrong let me know, but so far none of what you've said makes any sense