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Normal-Flower4437 t1_jb8l9y7 wrote

When we blame energy providers (fossil fuels etc) and corporations, we are by extension also somewhat blaming people for consuming (checks notes) …hospitals, food storage and preparation, movement of goods, building of housing, etc.

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Normal-Flower4437 t1_jb6htq9 wrote

I forgot to add “if we determine you look like or are associated with the least marginalized, you are the least marginalized. And Vice versa.”

Which is how my brown Morrocan Jewish friend became “white” in the eyes of his progressive coworkers for being Jewish. And how immigrant children of genocides got “white privilege.” And how a blonde-haired Palestinian became “brown”, but a Christian Arab from Syria became “white”.

It’s so fucking stupid. I even witnessed a movement to categorize black men as “white-adjacent” because so many black men were getting tired of the arbitrary rules and how often they’d get points for blackness but negative points for maleness. So a bunch of super-progressive WOC on TikTok, tired of men of their own race pushing back on the ideology, started on “men of color are white-adjacent due to their maleness.”

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Normal-Flower4437 t1_jb6cl1t wrote

In practice, I’ve found the rules usually end up becoming:

  1. There is a hierarchy of race, from most marginalized on top to least marginalized in bottom.

  2. Culture from most marginalized is best; culture from least marginalized is bad and ought to be replaced or allowed to die out.

  3. People from the top of the marginalization hierarchy have the right to participate in all genres and modes of expression. People from the bottom of the marginalization hierarchy must “stick to their own” while also acceding to all demands from point two.

  4. You can only borrow from below you in the marginalization hierarchy.

  5. Race trumps personal experience. A white person who grew up in poverty in a black neighborhood has no right to participate in hip hop or street slang; a black person who grew up in Brentwood has every right to adopt hip hop mannerisms and gangsta rap.

And so on.

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Normal-Flower4437 t1_j81488s wrote

Exactly. Justice, equality, and non-violence can be easily misdirected or co-opted.

Justice being the most obvious - justice for whom, and how, and for what? An overzealous desire for justice is one of the most destructive forces you can muster.

Equality is another. Equality for whom, and accomplished how? Violent redistribution seeks equality. A lot of antisemitism is rooted in outrage over inequality. The entire equality of outcome versus equality of opportunity debate we are having right now exists because those two values of equality are fundamentally in conflict.

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