>>Because it doesn't make sense to bring up an old historical facts to pretend your nation isn't the most criminal of the last century. > >That doesn't answer why are things from 30 years ago or 15 years ago or 5 years ago still relevant? Where's your cut-off? It seems very arbitrary.

Arbitrary is to bring up old historical empires that don't exist anymore from other centuries. We are talking about the nation that has military bases all over the world and is to blame for the poverty in the Global South, we are talking about the ones that have the biggest spy network to steal industry secrets to keep their edge over the rest of the world, you guys kill people without accountability just because it fits your agenda

Your companies are always bribing the puppet regimes you install to get better deals than the local ones, to keep the custom duties low so you can dump your crappy products and kill their industries. You enforce your draconian copyright rules (which patents have been created using drained brains from the rest of the world) to kill any possibility of independent development.

>Where was that stated before now? Why 70 years? Why not 2?

Because no one that's alive today was alive during WWI or the XIX century.

Because it doesn't make sense to bring up an old historical facts to pretend your nation isn't the most criminal of the last century.

>Ah. You don't know anything and any source you find contradicts you. Got it.

Yeah, you have zero arguments to counter what I said. Your people only know violence.

>Cite source. Pretty sure the UK, Spanish, Germans, and Japanese would have a word.

Yeah pretty sure the Romans and the Egyptian Pharaohs would like a word too. We are talking about the last 70 years, no other nation has even come close to the level of destruction the US has brought to the world, you were also the only nation in history to use nuclear weapons against civilians.

>Whoa. They provide more humanitarian aid to the "Global South" than any other nation on the planet.

You take multiple times that more with your private companies and puppet regimes, you try to topple down any government that dares to cross you or you use your international influence to blockade them economically

They have invaded and killed way more people than any other nation in the world? They wage economic war against the Global South? Russia has done none of that.

> it would take an insane amount of time to reverse what we've done.

Naturally, without human intervention.

>That time estimate hinges entirely on humanity ceasing all excess carbon emissions at once,

No, as long as humanity doesn't go extinct and eventually we stop adding carbon dioxide to the environment the change can be reversed. Nothing that China is doing is permanent the same way nothing that the US is doing is permanent, but if you're going to focus solely on China ignoring the centuries of Western pollution to the world then you are not only technically wrong, you are politically blind

> >Not only does this have absolutely nothing to do with the ice caps,

Lol, you really don't know anything about global warming, do you?

>this further supports my argument that what we're doing to the planet is basically permanent. The timescale to undo what we've done is hilariously beyond any human lifespan, and it hinges on the impossibility of all carbon emissions ceasing simultaneously.

No, it proves you were spewing bullcrap. The damage is not permanent like you claimed and it can be reversed, both naturally and artificially.

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/how-much-carbon-dioxide-does-earth-naturally-absorb

They already move huge naval presences around Taiwan without any windfarm to protect. You underestimate the will of China to retake Taiwan

Tell me you don't know anything about ecology without telling me you don't know anything about ecology, you go first:

> The damage has and is still being done. It's permanent.

Good luck doing that with the oligopolisation of the market that we're experiencing. By the time this becomes mainstream there's going to be 4 companies controlling 90% of the market for every available product