The faculty I knew at MSU had some beautiful houses. A lot of them lived in Okemos or near Lake Lansing which I think was a little more expensive, but still probably super reasonably priced.

I noticed that, too.

To my point above re: living in Michigan, seeing median vs. mean home prices reminds me of looking at house value data in Detroit a couple years after the '08 collapse. At one point, median house prices there got down to something insane like $10k. The mean value was significantly higher due to homes owned by extremely well-off people.

edit: It was $7,500. Wow.

Ha, that is random. Haven't been to Lansing in years. My SO's family is from Decatur, so we're out that way a fair amount. That drive feels like it never ends.

I get Pgh's inexpensive by national standards, but having lived near Lansing MI for a few years, these numbers are kinda hard to believe. It's a bit more believable considering that these are entire metro areas (not cities proper -- look at the populations) and there are tons of houses further outside of Pgh proper that are really cheap, which has to be affecting this. That said, housing around Lansing still seemed way cheaper. I knew a good number of grad students there who didn't earn much buying entire houses and my rent was always a good amount lower than in Pgh (though I'm aware differences in rent ≠ differences in home values).

What was the cutoff for including metros on this list, 100k population? If so, I'm also surprised places like Cumberland MD or Decatur IL aren't on here.

Damn, where've you lived that you had to sign a lease a year in advance? That is crazy.

Again, not trying to be an ass at you. But I think the general sentiment you'll see is that outside of rare exceptions (e.g., snowstorms), people aren't down with this. It's a practice that was done, or at least tolerated, by past generations. Now it's viewed as selfish because it's essentially laying claim to public property you don't own.

People may differ on what to do about it. Some will say move them and park there, anyhow. I'm not inclined to do that. You don't know who you're messing with. It could be someone who doesn't care, and you park there and it's fine. Or you could come back and find your car keyed or otherwise. In my mind, if someone wants to be a dick and claim it, whatever. It's not worth escalating a situation with some random and I'm not out to right other people's wrongs in the world, so I'll just find another spot.

Not trying to be an ass, but there are certain topics that get brought up repeatedly (pizza, Primanti's, anything to do with driving) that generate the same exact tenor in terms of sentiment. You start feeling like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day.

No one (or hardly anyone) is going to reply saying, "Yes, this is great. I'm all for putting objects into parking spots as a form of territorial pissing to claim one's spot. More of that."

Here we go, another parking chair/cone discussion. I think the general opinion on this is pretty well established here.

Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks for explaining.

>I was on one that just ended last year. What you’ve heard about the selection process is wrong. They don’t do any kind of interview work...

Sorry if I'm being obtuse, but isn't this what voir dire is? I've been on juries (though never a grand jury) and have been questioned during the evaluation process on multiple grounds. That doesn't happen for grand juries?

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Re: your Chicago comparison, the terrain makes a difference imo.

I lived in Michigan for a few years and have driven around a lot in central Illinois, both of which I assume has a similar terrain as Chicago. Given a fixed amount of snow, I'm way more comfortable driving in Michigan or central Illinois than PA. Worse came to worse and I were to slide off a road, I'd likely just go into a field at a similar elevation as the road. If you slide off a road in PA, there's a chance you're dropping off of and into something. The hills themselves also make a difference in terms of impact on navigability. My SO who is from central Illinois is mildly terrified of driving around Pittsburgh in snow, so your friend isn't unique (not that it's entirely rational or justified).

Questionable Pittsburgh relevance aside, what's the difference between "ou" vs. "ow," and are you hearing lots of people saying both of these (particular ou)?

I can't tell at this point which of these threads are genuine vs. shitposts vs. bots

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Fallingwater's also in Southwestern PA (Laurel Highlands), which is completely in-scope based on the sub's own rules

Been to Louisville a few times. It's not that similar to Pgh, but I could see someone connecting them because they're river valley towns with historically blue collar origins. Put it like this -- Pgh has some similarities with Cincinnati, and Cincinnati definitely has similarities with Louisville (they're < 100 mi apart), but outside of a couple things (e.g., river valley towns), what makes Pgh and Cincy similar doesn't really seem like what makes Cincy and Louisville similar. Not sure if that makes sense.

I sometimes wonder if these polls look like this because a lot of cities that are pretty similar to Pgh are way smaller in size (e.g., Cumberland, Scranton or Wilkes-Barre, Johnstown, Binghamton -- even places like Roanoke), so they don't get brought up because of the size differential. What do I know, though.

Pretty sure that's exactly why there's an "s" in Gimbels, to denote plurality from it being 2 brothers. But I'm not sure that was necessarily known to the typical shopper at the time (may have seemed like a possessive), and then you have places like JCPenney calling themselves Penneys or examples like Kaufmann's and Macy's.

It's kinda funny if you're to the point of putting an "s" at the end of stores like Bestbuy, Giant Eagle, or Wal-Mart. But I can see how there's precedent for assuming an "s" at the end of stores that are, or sound like, peoples' last names (e.g., Aldi).

Assuming that PENNEYS sign is referring to a JC Penney, is it any wonder why people (at least in the Pgh area) started calling them "Penneys" instead of Penney/JC Penney? They literally were calling themselves that. On top of that, you have Gimbels right next to it when the actual family name was Gimbel (no s). It's no wonder people started slapping an "s" at the end of every store name.

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And all along I figured it'd be a three-way tie between carrots, tuna, and corn -- you know, the holy trinity of pizza toppings

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I watched a video on youtube dissing PA and Pittsburgh and my son said he doesn't want to go now. I don't blame him after seeing that.

Name a major city, there's at least a dozen youtube videos crapping on it. Especially when you have clowns like this guy that travel to every post-industrial/rust belt city in the U.S. seemingly with the sole intent of being negative and stirring up shit.

I wouldn't let that dissuade you unless you saw something very specific to the area that concerned you.

Damn, two for the price of two? Gotta get over there before they sell out, gonna be bedlam.

I have zero doubt that Rs (or any other major US political party, for that matter) would've been much more upfront about a candidate's status if the tables were turned. So, if you find it to be shameful and disheartening for any reason, then I assume your sentiment is not a party-specific one. Otherwise, your take is a naive one.