Mike-Hunt1969

Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2b7265 wrote

> A lot of countries are increasing protected areas.

Brazil still ahead of most, even relative to it size, the whole concern trolling other nations do while not doing even 1/10 of what Brazil does it either on bad faith or extreme ignorance.

> Brazil is fortunate enough to be able to focus on the latter and it doesn't need to do so at the expense of its development.

Sadly it does, protecting an area the size of Europe is extremely dangerous, expensive, and consuming. Outlawing developments make sure no one will pay taxes, work conditions will be slave like, and that the money will end up in criminal hands.

Sadly we can't have our cake and eat it too.

> Sure, agribusiness will take a hit but that industry doesn't benefit the average Brazilian all that much. It keeps food prices low but also has shit wages and working conditions.

They are the industry pay most taxes, employ most people, and is the most stable. It will be a big hit and it is far from being "fortunate enough".

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Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2b6c2m wrote

> The fact that you blame "foreigners" says so much about how right-wingers just pretend everything is someone else's fault.

The largest enviromental disasters are caused by foreign companies.

The produce/meat is not for national consumption and is exported.

The border are the most active regions because they know the Brazilian authorities can't act properly.

There are thousands of problems that are 100% national, this ain't one.

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Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2b5cxh wrote

> Many many medicines and rare compounds are found there/derived from plants that can only grow there.

And Brazil can't farm or mine there withouth getting flak from other countries, european companies do it all the time tho.

> but your forest is the poster child.

More like a target, the fame of the Amazon mostly has negative consequences. Best case scenario we get a few mil from UE so they pretend they are helping while causing damages themselves.

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Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2aukju wrote

> Bro I’m American we just want you all to have all your rights

Not sanctioning us because of wildfire would be a great starts.

> You seem to be a Bolso guy.

Sadly I was forced to vote for him on the second turn (voting in Brazil is mandatory-ish).

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Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2anvt3 wrote

> You know the Amazon isn’t just in one country right?

Yes, and it happens that the largest chunk of it is in Brazil. No one has any issues about Peru and Ecuador talking about their borders and shared biomes, but UK and Norway can kinda fuck off.

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Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2andxy wrote

You can find hundreds of articles about how the amazon forest should "belong to the world" and not Brazil, as a matter of fact you probably don't remember that in 2019 Macron and the EU tried to sanction Brazil because of the amazon forest. Going as far as to threaten to block trade, all because they were displeased. They even discussed what should be done about it in a G7 meeting they didn't invite Brazil to, while calling the forest "our home"

https://twitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1164616868080103425

(Also the picture Macron used is like 30y)

Oh, but the EU offered enough money to buy a couple helicopters to patrol an area the size of western europe, I am sure they all care deeply about it.

Maybe you don't notice those kinds of comments but I am brazilian and it is pretty clear that if it was possible to fence out the Amazon most gringos would do it no matter what the cost.

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Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2aeuv0 wrote

Calling people dehumanizing terms is pretty fascist of you, isn't that the second step of fascism? Amazing how you managed to do that but not say anything about Bolsonaro.

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Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2aegml wrote

> The effects of deforestation will affect the local populace first

Do you think people travel half of the continent to do logging and then go back home? It is the local population doing it lmao.

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Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2ab7i7 wrote

Not really, just what I keep seeing online. Europeans and Canadians talking about how the Amazon should be invaded and Brazilian people don't have any sort of claim on it, blindly support any figures that says something about the amazon because trees.

Meanwhile no one wants to stop norwegian mining companies or make one third of their country an international reservation (pine tree wastelands don't count).

Pretty standard on the internet.

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