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Legitimate-Cow-6859 t1_iujnx4t wrote

That’s certainly part of it, but I don’t see a way out that was any less messy. It’s either we prolong the occupation with no real end goal or we cut out of there. Unfortunately the real losers in each situation were the people of Afghanistan who’ve now seen 30+ years of war and instability

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Legitimate-Cow-6859 t1_iujmqjc wrote

I mean Afghanistan is complicated. It’s more of a large set of tribes than a nation state like we think. What is “their land”, really?

Plus the military that we established there was modeled after the US military - an advanced mechanized military that requires financial and logistical support that simply isn’t possible for a nation like Afghanistan. Are you going to stand and die when the air support suddenly stops?

Not to mention all the corruption, some of which was actively supported by the US, as well as a decent amount of anti-US sentiment that was empowered by civilian deaths and people being abducted to gitmo on suspicion of terrorist activity.

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Legitimate-Cow-6859 t1_itm21sa wrote

That’s what they want you to think

Real shit, the US government has done so much fucked up shit (mk-ultra, Tuskegee syphilis experiment, dropping bio weapons on San Francisco, Iran-contra and importing cocaine while ramping up the war on drugs, various forms of corruption in our electoral system, etc) that there’s a very tangible benefit to people dismissing conspiracy theorists as crazy kooks.

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