I can't tell if this is supposed to be satirical or not. This is satire right?

I'm done arguing with a homophobe. Its 2023, touch some grass

You are basically arguing that Flint being bisexual and loving another man makes him 'softer'

From your comment earlier discussing the character having a gay relationship - 'yeah, that was out of left field and really softened our hardest and most ruthless character imo'

Then you follow it up by saying that everything that the writer added to the story through the relationship could have been achieved by a hetero relationship instead

From your comment earlier countering me saying that the gay relationship drove the story and character - 'the Barlow relationship did that already. There was no need to add another love interest'

>Imagine if Walt suddenly had a romance in breaking bad.
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>Do you see why that would detract from the story, regardless of gender?

Not really if it was done well? I can't really comment on this without seeing a script with this happening, but I could totally see it working. It's been like a decade since I watched that show so I can't remember it as well as Black Sails, but I'm pretty sure his relationship with his wife heavily influenced the story.

I don't care if you respond or not, you are basically arguing that Flint being bisexual and loving another man makes him 'softer' and takes away from the story. Then you follow it up by saying that everything that the writer added to the story through the relationship could have been achieved by a hetero relationship instead. It's baseless homophobia, you just don't like seeing your macho pirate antihero love a man because in your mind this is a dichotomy, which is probably the whole bloody point of the writer doing it in the first place.

>The question remains - why.

Because bisexual men exist and clearly the writer wanted to make Flint one of them. Your dog whistle is really showing using terms like 'ham fisted token characters'. You take issue that Flint loves a man, you even said it makes him 'softer' which is an incredibly honest take to have and actually say publicly, that you believe if a man loves another man that 'softens him'. I would expect to see that take in the mid 70s to be honest. Does Charles Vane's scenes with Elanor also 'soften' him? Or since he is railing a hot blond is that fine?

I'll tell you what it achieved that the Barlow relationship wouldn't. It took one of the toughest characters on screen and said that he can be that tough, that ruthless and that powerful and love a man, and that his toughness, ruthlessness and power can come from his love for another man. That, on many levels, is an interesting thing to do in a TV show like black sails.

And yes, all of that can be achieved through a hetero relationship with Barlow. But if you take issue that it was done through his love for a man, and not a woman, I hate to break it to you, but that is no longer about the 'quality of the show'

You come across as either young, homophobic or a bit heartless by the way. Sure, they could have had that entire arc done through a hetero relationship, but maybe, just maybe, the writer wanted to make the lead character bisexual and have those same things achieved through his love with another man. It wasn't a fucking 'twist to shock the viewers' it was just Flint's written character of being a bisexual man. They do exist by the way and their existence isn't a 'shocking twist'.

How does being gay 'progress his character'? Literally everything he does is as a result of his relationship with Thomas and their treatment under the Crown and Thomas' father. His entire character is shaped by that relationship. Black Sails is basically a show about how Flint wants to take down the British Empire, because of how much it destroyed his and Thomas' lives. If you think it is all about his love for gold, you have epically misunderstood the show. The gold is just a means to fight back against an Empire that Flint sees as tyrannical. That whole speech that Flint does in the last episode... Here there be dragons... that sums up the whole point of his character and the show as a whole, it isn't about gold.

This comment is what I expect from a 13 year old boy to be honest. It's so hilariously out of touch with actual life and relationships

>I myself was an audience member pulled up on stage during one of his tours. I've seen him at work literally inches away from me.

I never said his stage shows were staged, they are all legit 'magic'. I said his TV shows were staged. The ones where he makes someone believe they are in a zombie apocalypse, like, come on... I've also spoken to people involved in making those shows who corroborated that the people on it were aspiring actors. They never actually said it was staged, but they sent links to the actors pages online.

Derren Brown is basically just a normal illusionist / magician who made an incredibly powerful brand / patter. He will do a normal force to get you to pick a card but then convinces the audience that the reason you picked the card is that he set up a street food vendor outside your apartment building 3 months ago called 'the 3 of clubs' or something and has actually personally served you 12 times hypnotising you each time without you knowing. It is all nonsense, he is just using slight of hand, forces, props etc. like every stage magician for the past 100 years. He has just managed to convince the layman that he is doing it all through things like 'the power of suggestion' etc. which to his credit is a fucking great brand to build and has made him a lot of money. But it is all nonsense, the whole 'power of suggestion' shtick only works if you are manipulating people for months or years, it doesn't work over an afternoon.

Let's put it this way, there is a 0% chance that Derren will ever get a stage trick wrong. That is because it is all traditional magic, he knows he can't get it wrong because he is using props and or slight of hand to make sure he always gets it right. The man would never risk a trick going wrong because the person in the audience sneezed when they walked past the giraffe statue in the lobby and didn't see it ruining his psychological re programming. If that happens a handful of times, his career is over and having read up on the psychology he attributes to his tricks, there is no way he is actually doing it that way, it is FAR to risky for him

How? He is just a good illusionist who created an even better patter and brand. All of his TV shows are staged as well