Intelligent-Hunt7557

Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_jddcn51 wrote

The comments here definitely represent the vagaries of the human condition! We Got All Kinds Here! It’s actually pretty typical for people to consider things idyllic before they are disabused of their fanciful notions. Sure sounds like every concept of Vermont living I know about. (Remoteness, off-grid, wood heat, et al) I have not sugared but it doesn’t surprise me customers don’t want to know How The Sausage(/Syrup) Is Made. Similarly no one wants to think about huge sewage lagoons and the most dangerous jobs people do cleaning out the pits in order to get their tasty tasty mega-ag / corporate bacon. We all hold these hypocrisies/contradictions (sometimes mitigated by eating locally/small-batch but still)

False dichotomies won’t help you! Even tho it has been a while since I scienced formally, does the dosage still makes the poison? “Danger” is relative (“potential danger” is still infuriatingly redundant) and we may never know the temperature or levels at which a rodent may decompose enough to be fatal right? Who wants to propose to UVM’s budding crop of food scientists that they study the issue? Will Big Maple get in the way? #ProctorGate!

The nature of what constitutes “gross” or “creepy” is a land-mine-riddled field. Is a cold freshly-dead rat in a sap bucket grosser than hair jewelry? How about “death masks” or “extreme embalming,” where bodies are posed? How about the ‘delicacy’ of casu martzu? Lutefisk, mummy dust tinctures? Lotsa gross out there. Some folks even allow their pets to lick and kiss them when the pets eats shit! All relative.

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Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_jd83n40 wrote

Lately I’ve been playing Obsession, which is a fantastic Victorian-era-themed worker-placement game, and Carnegie, which takes twice as long but even more worker-placey.

A great game for not taking too long or taking yourself too seriously is crokinole, which is like darts, tiddlywinks, and shuffleboard had a baby. One of those ‘minute to learn, lifetime to master’ things. Best played while imbibing

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Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_jbd5ikh wrote

We’re talking past each other a bit- I’m saying the pleasant pedantry is ours over whether Hartman’s Law applies here. There’s no point in being pedantic (except humorously) about it or Poe’s Law, Godwin’s Law, or any of the other “Laws” which are really observations at best. It’s indeed a bad opinion piece if we’re arguing about the possible qualified intros and not the content. And it was always clear that your complaint was not limited to a typo, but like you I couldn’t resist the zinger.

Getting back to the author’s credentials/ possible motivations Beck is listed on the SJA website as a Social Studies teacher and local business owner so as an alum I’d prefer to think that his incoherency owes to

  1. not being an alum, unlike a great percent of the faculty
  2. not being in the English Department
  3. possibly since he got his M. Ed. from The Citadel?! TIL

All I meant was we could leave the Academy out of this. That he has no discernable point is clear but the Academy is not responsible for that.

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Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_jbbwa1l wrote

I agree that your critique concerned more than a typo (which might have been VTDigger’s anyway) but Hartman’s Law does not dictate typos must be the only crit, no. The descent into (mere?) pedantry can be pleasant given the right circumstances, but in this case the main proviso of ‘don’t point out typos in others’ words unless yours are proofed’ holds.

While it is true that people are generally motivated to protect their employers, it doesn’t actually mean they will or won’t make cogent arguments, so that’s why I’m saying it’s not that relevant. Is motivated self-interest inherently unethical? Realistically, you’d be hard-pressed to find an adult in St. J who is not affected by SJA. And that’s anecdotal I suppose, I don’t have enough data to sway any naysayers.

In general without knowing any situation deeply can’t you always just say “well that’s what you would say, given…”? causation =/= correlation.

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Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_jbbsiaa wrote

I’ll keep it simple: you

  1. blamed St. Johnsbury Academy for high transportation costs and
  2. implied a public high school would be more convenient or somehow have less expensive transportation

Both of these points need proof and you didn’t provide any. I tried to explain why the nation is experiencing high transportation costs but maybe you’re not interested in understanding. Enjoy your misdirected outrage!

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Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_jbabs58 wrote

I’d like to agree with you completely (since I found the piece hard to follow as well) but Hartman’s Law means your launch should have been scrubbed. [reason]

Also for someone who seems like they should appreciate nuance the responsibility VTDigger has to their pieces labeled OPINION elude you. Put simply they converted their “Letters to the Editor” feature/tradition to rotating/chosen Opinion pieces some years ago. While the legislative connection is front and center and his employer is unstated, it is certainly public knowledge. Unless he is a paid spokesperson it’s not really relevant tho. Or rather I’m comfortable leaving the relevance as an exercise to the reader. There’s not really any “AHA!” moment here. But I’m pretty sure VTDigger employees would be happy to spell it out more, as the times I have reached them for editing errors they have responded to me quickly.

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Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_jba2ns7 wrote

You really could state your case a lot better without conflating religious, independent, and private, as this jumbled thread shows. It sounds like what has happened over the past 5 years is not unique to the NEK or anywhere in VT. And really it has nothing to do with whether you or your child did well there.

As Americans we are spoiled rotten about a number of things rigged by the government (on a bipartisan basis!) to be cheap for us. Fuel and food costs are among them, and those have seen occasional spikes over the past 50 years (sometimes at the expense of getting re-elected as President!). And COVID times have brought us a new (horrible!) era of resetting our appreciation of labor logistics as consumers. “No one WanTS to WORk ANymORE” = workers know their worth. Are the days of minimum wage drivers and child care workers over? You tell me. Add to that our state’s housing crisis and all the other things affecting us and we have many problems to work through, 0 interest in building a new public high school in St. J for what!? Everyone wants a school right outside their door. Why don’t you move to where the school is if it will save you all this money?

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Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_ja8rlw9 wrote

To my lay ears that sounds like imposing a “prior bad acts” factor on bail- again, unconstitutional as it stands. The right to a speedy trial stands in far greater esteem compared to a nebulous ‘presumption of guilt.’

You should be aware that Common Sense Fallacy is a thing and your best bet is explaining how it would work rather than implying it’s too simple and easy to explain.

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Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_j9p1q5v wrote

Must be something in Fairfax water—similarly, when asked by the host in a public access interview about her Prop 5/ Article 22 (reproductive rights protection) stances, Rep. Ashley Bartley deflected with the nonanswer “lots of misinformation out there…”.

Also transparently shittily, nearby Franklin-4’s Bob Norris mentioned he based his Gilead-loving stances on a number of postcards he had received! Even the mild-mannered interviewer probed him further to get him to admit it was Astroturf.

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Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_j8pz74b wrote

Some views make you incapable of doing a job, through sheer incompetence. If the firefighter arrives at your house and thinks fires have rights to exist then We Got Beef right? Any views a cop concerning equal protection has are germane because they deal with the public. Did you even read the article? He’s a known official liar and abuser of rights. He should eff off

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Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_j8phaiw wrote

Do you know why reactionaries who wet their pants over people getting “cancelled” are boring? It’s a facade. No one ever got cancelled. You know how I know? Mel Gibson is still making movies. What was a news oddity about Dolezal is someone choosing to give up white privilege. It’s almost inconsequential.

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