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Independent-Ad-8531 t1_j3wz0mu wrote

Have a good one yourselves. You should celebrate rightfully on the scientists. It is a great accomplishment. Nevertheless no energy was being created. A tremendous amount of energy was wasted to make this experiment work. Keeping that in mind if we just look at the last step some energy was created compared to the energy used (a really small amount that can by no means be scaled up). This is a milestone but is by no means the breakthrough the article does make it look like. It is a great achievement for science but it has no further meaning to the use of nuclear fusion to generate power. Since all the other processes around do and will necessarily always waste so much more energy than can be gained by the last step. This approach to nuclear fusion is a dead end that can and will never produce any net energy. If we accept that, it will nevertheless produce valuable new knowledge. A lot know how of plasma physics can be gained from it.

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Independent-Ad-8531 t1_j3u9y1f wrote

And don't confuse the unit, they where talking about MJ not MW.

1MJ = 0.27 kWh

Edit: In more common units this reads like 0.14kWh of light energy produced 0.42kWh of fusion energy.

Edit2: To produce the amount of 0.14kWh of light energy the amount of 14kWh of electric energy where used. And an infinite amount of energy (in comparison) to produce the "fuel"

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Independent-Ad-8531 t1_j3txsar wrote

It is obvious that this approach will never be usable to generate energy. There are better approaches even when talking about fusion. This consumed already that much energy in generating the "fuel" heating the lasers and everything. It only produced a tiny amount of the energy it consumed in total. Moreover it's pulse is one, maybe two shots per day. There is no way in enhancing this since the lasers need to cool (cooling with energy seems counterproductive for obvious reasons). Every shot generated not even enough energy to heat a cup of coffee. There is no path on how to improve that in a foreseeable future. There is literally no way to scale this up or make this produce net energy. Yet everyone keeps telling that this is a "breakthrough" of any kind. Telling that that this will help to solve the energy crisis in any possible future is not optimistic, it is simply wrong. Yet there are obvious things we definitely can do with greater impact. We simply do not approach the obvious things because we keep telling ourselves that this is will somehow help. Some realism is important here.

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Independent-Ad-8531 t1_j3siahp wrote

It means exactly nothing for the usage of fusion power. This method has exactly zero chance of being ever used in a commercial fusion reactor. However more and more people think that the inevitable and hard change to renewable energy sources could be avoided. This article, like a lot of the other, unreflected articles makes me really sad.

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