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Historical-Coat5318 t1_j5k3k1o wrote

I think so, yes. In that world the dead internet theory would become true and people will become only more dissociated from reality and society, especially so when AI can generate video and audio. The political repercussions are disastrous.

Also, I really love literature (and art in general) and a future where one cannot differentiate a human writer from AI is, frankly, suicidally bleak to me. I can see a future where publishers use AI to read the market and write the right books for maximum profit completely cutting out human authors from the process. I am an aspiring novelist myself and, while the act of writing is intrinsically motivating there is also a massive social component in terms of having a career and having others read your work that would be completely excised from creativity, so there is also a personal component I suppose. Sharing in the creativity of other humans is the main thing that gives life meaning to me personally and to many others, and to have that stripped from life is extremely depressing.

While this is all very speculative I just can't see the rapid advances in AI leading anywhere expect a lonelier, more isolated and chaotic world if it isn't seriously regulated. But all of this can be fixed if we could just identify AI text. Then nothing would change in terms of the place of human creativity in the world, it would be basically like chess, people still devote their lives to it and the community thrives but only because we can discern AI chess playing from human chess playing. Imagine if there were no anti-cheating policies in chess tournaments, no one would ever play chess seriously ever again.

If we could just identify AI output we would get all of the benefits of LLMs without any of the disastrous drawbacks. To me it is the most important issue right now, but people don't even consider it and are outright hostile to the idea, just see the downvotes to my original reply.

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Historical-Coat5318 t1_j5jw8o8 wrote

I just can't even begin to comprehend this view. Of course, democratizing something sounds good, but if AI has mass-destructive potential it is obviously safer if a handful of people have that power than if eight billion have it. Even if AI isn't mass-destructive, which it obviously isn't yet, it is already extremely socially disruptive and if any given person has that power our governing bodies have basically no hope of steering it in the right direction through regulation, (which they would try to since it would serve their best interests as individuals). The common person would still have a say in these regulations through the vote.

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Historical-Coat5318 t1_j5juhb7 wrote

AI in my view should be controlled by very few institutions, and these institutions should be carefully managed by experts and very intelligent people, which is the case for companies like Google or OpenAI. If AI must exist, and it must, I would much rather it were in the hands of people like Sam Altman and Scott Aaronson than literally everyone with an internet connection.

Obviously terms like "open-source" and "democratised" sound good, but if you think about the repercussions of this you will surely realise that it would be totally disastrous for society. Looking back in history we can see that nuclear weapons were actually quite judiciously managed when you consider all of the economic and political tensions of the time, now imagine if anyone could have bought a nuke at Walmart, human extinction would have been assured. Open-source AI is basically democratized mass-destruction, and if weapons of mass-destruction must exist (including AI), then it should be in as few hands as possible.

Even ignoring existential risk, which is obviously still very speculative, even LLMs should never be open-source because that makes any regulation impossible. In that world evidence (video, images and text), not to mention human creativity, would cease to exist and the internet would basically be unnavigable as the chasm between people's political conception of the world and the world itself only widens. Only a few companies should be allowed to have this technology, and they should be heavily regulated. I admit I don't know how this could be implemented, I just know that it should be.

This is basically Nick Bostrom's Vulnerable World Hypothesis. Bostrom should be read as a prerequisite for everyone involved in AI, in my opinion.

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Historical-Coat5318 t1_j5fbhj5 wrote

If by fighting technological progress you mean controlling it to make sure it serves humanity in the safest most optimal way then yes, we've been doing this forever, when cars were first introduced traffic police didn't exist. There is nothing retrograde or luddite in thinking this way, it's what we've always done.

Obviously watermarking is futile but there are other methods that need to be considered which no one even entertains, for example the ones I mentioned in my first comment.

Also it should be trivially obvious that AI should never be open-source. That's the worst possible idea.

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Historical-Coat5318 t1_j5f88m7 wrote

It seems to me ethically imperative to be able to discern human text from AI text, so it's really concerning when people just hand-wave it away immediately as obviously futile, like Altman did in a recent interview. Obviously these detection methods would have to be more robust than just a cryptographic key that can be easily circumvented just by changing a few words, but this is the most pressing ethical issue in AI safety today and no one seems to be even considering dealing with it in a serious way.

One idea: Couldn't you just train the AI to identify minor changes to the text to the point where rewriting it would be too much of a hassle? Also, open the server history under a homonymous (for privacy concerns) database so that everyone has access to all GPT (and all other LLMs) output and couple that with the cryptographic key Scott Aaronson introduced plus adversarial solutions for re-worded text. This with other additional safety features would make it too much of hassle for anyone to try to bypass it, maybe an additional infinitesimal cost to every GPT output to counteract spam, etc etc. A lot of regulation is needed for something so potentially disruptive.

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