Hi-isLiv

Hi-isLiv OP t1_ivzgzos wrote

I think it’s valid, your rant I mean. I had clsssified that book as a fluffy harmless read that was predictable and non very deep but that resonated on some level. And I didn’t consider the biggest picture. So thank you.

Also I think there is difference between having a “fantasy about abuse” and mistaking romance with actual abuse and, from what you are telling me, the author and marketing team are making bucks on morally gray area. It’s a dangerous game for younger generations.

Have you read Neon Gods? It’s really bad. Like reaaaally bad, but was based on consent to the point you were reminded every ten seconds since I think it was marketed to a younger audience.

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Hi-isLiv OP t1_ivzdtqq wrote

I think it matters you are an English mayor. It means you are an educated reader.

I have a degree in economics so a lot of things are not obvious to me and I have to study and get informed. And I agree about the cringe: the name and the rest.

About the book being labeled as romance: what? Seriously? I didn’t know the backstory of the book. I thought it was popular because was abuse and getting help, ending the cycle and all that. Not that was romantic. At all. When you read it you know the guy is a giant red flag. He is introduced by kicking chairs and forcing her to go near him. She tells him she doesn’t want a night stand and he keeps pushing. I could go on and on. All the signs were there from the beginning.

I also didn’t know that teenagers think this is “hot”. And that’s the problem. Abusers are usually very charming in the beginning, like in this case. I thought the ratio behind having a naive character was to use it as a device to tell a cautionary tale not to send messages like “he shoved me down the stairs but sex is hot and he has a six pack!”

Knowing this I can see where you a coming from and I agree. There is a sort of deception from the author to call this a love triangle and a love story when it’s blatant abuse. Especially if she writes for a younger audience. I will look into this.

The guy doesn’t face consequences and unfortunately it’s sometimes the reality especially when people don’t press charges and there are no records.

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Hi-isLiv OP t1_ivyv6q0 wrote

Thank you for your opinion and no offense taken.

And you are entitled to your opinion and classify a book you don’t like as trashy. And yes there are far better authors and better books.

I think that there great books, good books, guilty pleasure books.

I put it ends with us in the latter category: you go in knowing it’s not going to be a good book but something in the story pulls your emotional strings. I think when that happens you are aware you are reading, as you called it trash, but you don’t care.

I haven’t analyzed why I didn’t mind the book until you asked the question.

I guess for me it was the title: it ends with us. I come from an abusive family (hope it’s not TMI) and I really, really would like my that my parents would have thought those litttle four words. But they didn’t. So it was up to me to build a safe, Healy life, and luckily I was able to. Kudos to the titling choice. The characters are flat and multidimensional, I agree. The guy was a walking red flag, can you imagine a man coming to your door bagging you to f. Him? That should have been my clue, but I guess I wanted to see what it would mean “it ends with us” and how she dealt with all this so I stuck around. I’m not sure I would suggest the book as a good book but I read it in one sitting and put away as just another story I read.

Why do think it’s glorification of abuse?

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Hi-isLiv OP t1_ivymwzr wrote

Totally agree.

While reading it I thought it would have make a really great movie. I enjoy music biopics even if artists I don’t follow.

There is nothing wrong with beach reads. I read more than my fair share. I actually liked It ends with us, probably because I wasn’t expecting anything more.

I like to switch between deep books and light reads and sometimes those kind of books you read just for… yup the sex scenes 😝.

Right now I’m reading the Bell Jar and next one is All the Light we cannot see and this one was a good in between but I hade too many expectations considering the reviews.

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