Helpful-Substance685

Helpful-Substance685 t1_iuuwcth wrote

You are saying that every person and situation should be treated individually and with dignity and you are 100% right about this.

I'm saying that my neighborhood has changed drastically for the worse because of a huge migration of people to my area. I didn't say everyone in that group is a criminal but crime has risen drastically and I didn't say everyone in this group litters but it looks like a landfill right around the corner from my house right now.

Your perspective (how an individual unhoused person is judged) and mine (how I'm affected by a drastic change in crime and trash in my area) are from different conversations and really shouldn't be addressed together.

Our goal is the same though. Help every single person in the way they uniquely need to be helped so that all of our issues can be addressed simultaneously.

You stay safe too and I hope you have a good night or day wherever you may be.

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Helpful-Substance685 t1_iutjf3k wrote

Nope.

But clearly you are seriously trying to troll or trying valiantly to miss the point. I don't know who the criminals are within the groups that moved in but I do know that these circumstances did not exist before those groups moved in.

I don't know how you like to live, but I don't want to live in a slum. California taxes (which I pay) are too damn high for me to have to live in filth and crime that neither myself, my neighbors nor the business owners in my area caused.

You can blame (or not blame) whoever you like but it doesn't change the fact that homelessness brings crime and filthy conditions.

Those are facts and that is the end of this silly conversation. Argue with yourself if you like.

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Helpful-Substance685 t1_iut8lk4 wrote

These things hardly happened until the homeless came to the neighborhood. It was not dirty and there was little crime. Correlation and causation are one in the same here.

It is a problem of homeless thieves, litterbugs and criminals that moved into my area 2+ years ago. If a problem didn't exist before they were here then their presence is causing the problem.

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Helpful-Substance685 t1_iumtoym wrote

Agree on most of your points but it's not a million per building. It's a million per (1) unit in that building. So a 30 unit building is 30 million.

30 mil to house 30-120 people is corruption. It's flagrant misuse of tax funding. BUT to your point, if funded and implemented properly then yes these are the solutions long term.

I think what you miss here is that everyone living in these areas knows what the answer is but nothing is being done while LA spends a million per unit to SLOWLY build as little housing and mental health infrastructure as possible. I am tired of living like this while my votes and tax dollars are screaming for solutions. You come live like this for 2+ years and then tell me how much time you're willing to spend in the muck and mire while those vaporous "solutions" are being pitched by people who are not affected by it.

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Helpful-Substance685 t1_iumbnfb wrote

How the people who live in it feel about the issue is complicated not the solutions. The solutions you presented are simple and straight forward but they are not being implemented and my neighborhood is still functioning like hell on earth.

I vote and I am voting for any and every candidate who says they will fix this issue but when I see shit like this article about how Los Angeles is spending $1,000,000.00 (per fucking unit!) to build low income housing then my patience in those easy, straight forward solutions starts to dry up.

I'm living in it and if you aren't then you don't understand how your feelings about homelessness can become complicated.

Edited: Last paragraph because it wasn't a fair argument to make.

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Helpful-Substance685 t1_ium8h3p wrote

This is a tricky issue. I live in an unincorporated area of Los Angeles and the homeless have moved in droves (hundreds of trailers and tents) to my neighborhood. There is trash everywhere, crime has spiked out of control, convenience businesses like 7eleven have closed because they were being robbed every week.

I am a bleeding heart that wants help for everyone but I am also a taxpaying citizen who wants to live in a safe neighborhood. My neighborhood was really decent before this and now it's like driving through a war torn trap house.

After two years of living in this, I just want it to stop and if forcing people out is how it has to get done then there is a huge part of me thats all for that.

I think living in the disgusting, unsafe reality of it changes your perspective on the whole matter.

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