Rights are worthless if you only give them to sympathetic people.

No way. If my employer found out I put proprietary source code into some random company’s text box, they’d fire me out of a cannon into the sun.

If that was your whole damned point then you would have led with that. Instead, you talked about individual instances of knife and vehicle violence as if that somehow proved something.

Here are two statements I hope we can both agree on although I won’t be surprised if you find some way to argue:

1. Guns are, in general, a far superior tool of mass murder than knives or other easily accessible weapons.
2. Mass murder is not the top priority if your goal is to save lives by whatever means you can.

Nice deflection.

Well, I don’t think it’s an overstatement. Again, the people to whom it matters most, the mass-murdering fuckheads, nearly always choose a gun when they can.

And what’s wrong with that, exactly? The gun will be more deadly the vast majority of the time.

You managed to interpret my general statement as something like “every single imaginable instance of mass murder would be less deadly with another weapon than with a gun” when that is clearly not what it said, and somehow I’m the one stretching?

My statement was general and such things aren’t expected to apply to every single instance. Without any qualifiers, it can be and is intended to be read as applying to the aggregate. You just misinterpreted it in the one way that would make it wrong, then went on a rant against that misinterpretation. Congrats.

Yeah: what about my statement needs to be conditional?

Are you just looking for an “on average” or “usually” tacked on, or what?

I said a lot fewer people die when other weapons are used, and your response was, “Really?” Followed by examples attempting to refute my statement.

If your point isn’t that other weapons are just as effective as guns, then what is your point exactly?

And yet, there are still vastly more gun attacks, and vastly more victims of those attacks, than with trucks or knives.

If they’re just as effective, why do these murdering bastards bother with guns?

There are a lot of times where armies do set out to indiscriminately kill people. In modern times, they always use guns to do it, or worse things.

Yes, really.

The worst mass shooting in the US killed 58 people. #2 killed 49. There have been 9 that killed more than 20.

Can you find me an instance where someone stabbed over 50 people to death?

There’s a reason the Army sends soldiers into battle with guns, not just knives.

When people commit violence with something else, a lot fewer people die.