Also the language on immortalization is unclear and if they are using crispr, they should be subject to human clinical trials prior to any approval

This is the problem with science right now. Maybe the person above kind of came too hard. As a scientist instead of putting them down, you address the concerns the person has and talk to them like a human being with the knowledge you have to educate them.

If you’ve read the FDA’s documents on the Upside cell line submission, there’s a lot of questions to the validity of all of this, which makes sense, as the FDA hasn’t signed off, they just don’t have questions at this time. This is the beginning. There has not been any approval or assessment of any product. Headline in the media are very misleading and the owner of twitters brother is an investor.

They’ve also been backing off, as has the whole industry, in the ability to scale. There were a lot of companies who made big claims about their tech and are now changing their names/rebranding quietly and staying scalability is “obviously years away”

Chastising ppl just because they come to strong with their assumed opinions is what created vaccine denial. Not dumb ppl. It’s the ppl with knowledge that chose to high brow ppl because they couldn’t explain the science and just wanted people to agree with them because…science is full of a bunch of smug assholes nowadays.

No it doesn’t. Their head of regulatory did an interview and said they’re working in a hybrid project, it’s no surprise that this will be a pea protein X some chicken cells maybe.

They state they’re product is differentiated chicken cells into myocytes (muscle) and fibroblast. There’s no mention of adipose. Later their head of regulatory in an interview said that the combo of muscle and skin cells has comparable fat inherent when processed to equal the fat content of a store bought chicken breast. That makes no sense.

They don’t have FDA approval either. There’s a lot of false headlines regarding what happened here.

The FDA has no questions “at this time.” There’s never mention of approval. They’ve just said nothing basically.

The document submitted was upside’s own assessment of their process which was reviewed by the FDA.

They still need FDA approval. And USDA approval.

One of the most interesting aspects of the FDA/Upside documents is how they state that bovine, porcine, and chicken origin particles “may be present,” as they use serum from chickens, trypsin from porcine, and claim there’s residual bovine matter from other things.

Additionally you’ll see that upside never states FDA approval themselves but “no questions letter” throughout social media so their legal team is clearly active.

What really grabbed me was the potential hazards they state in their document including incorrect animal source origin.

But yea, it reads like this was on the heels of the Biden climate act clause and other stuff going on in Egypt right now at the conference