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Friendly-Path-3888 t1_iu33dcz wrote

These companies budget for tickets, because it's far less expensive to just pay the fines if and when they are levied than to make drivers waste precious time trying to abide street-by-street parking laws. Drivers just do what's easiest for them, take the ticket if they get it and move on.

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Friendly-Path-3888 t1_itv40fj wrote

Beck was explicitly the opener and was playing a limited acoustic set. You're profoundly wrong about how the tour was billed.

We have accounts from 4 accusers and a response from Butler on all counts. If truth is somewhere in the middle, even then Butler is a predatory creep.

"We have no idea" fuck all the way off

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Friendly-Path-3888 t1_ito4cgv wrote

>I can’t believe that guarantee remains, if the band refuses to play.

That's literally how promoted shows work. The promoter fronts the band a chunk of money, fronts costs for the tour and production and advertising, takes back their expenses from the ticket sales and then splits profits with the artist, usually heavily favoring the artist.

The promoter can cancel it, and then another promoter (probably IMP itself in this scenario) would buy it up.

The only party who can unilaterally "make this right" is Arcade Fire - but the idea of getting a refund because the opener drops is preposterous.

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Friendly-Path-3888 t1_ito3wve wrote

Yes, the venue is owned by IMP, therefore it appears on IMP's website. They own many venues and host many shows.

IMP is also a promoter. But they are not the promoter for the show simply because the show is in their room.

Take a look, at the actual show page. What does it say above the band name, there? Does it say IMP Presents?

(hint - it doesn't).

https://impconcerts.com/event/arcade-fire-the-we-tour-with-special-guest-beck-3/

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Friendly-Path-3888 t1_ito1uc2 wrote

> no they aren’t going to make the band play at gun point, but the band isn’t going to get paid if they don’t play either, it’s a business.

The band does get paid if they don't play, just not nearly as much. The promoter rents the room and pays the artist a guarantee for the engagement.

I'm in agreement that it isn't AF's problem, just wild to see everyone in here pointing fingers at everyone under the sun except the party responsible for keeping their money

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Friendly-Path-3888 t1_itnbyft wrote

It isn't any of this.

Any concert that isn't a completely local show holds tickets for use by the artists, promoter, venue, agents, etc and so on. As the show date approaches, these tickets either get directly sold or used as comps, or they are no longer needed by any of the above parties and get released.

At any venue over 1000 capacity you're nearly always going to see tickets pop up closer to the date

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Friendly-Path-3888 t1_itnb5hy wrote

The band. You should blame the band. The band has the ultimate authority.

If the band said "refund everyone who wants it or we won't play" that's what would happen.

If the band said "don't you dare refund anyone, we're the headliner and we're playing" that's what would happen.

But everyone who already has a ticket, by almost definition, loves the band, so are all to happy to blame everyone else except the sexual predator who wants to keep your money.

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