First, I love this post and this is why I follow the sub.

Second, are you performing any experiments that have been, potentially, been contaminated?

All we are is dust in the existential plane.

Love it, that sounds pretty accurate.

Honestly I look forward to next years article for the same argument and the same conversations about the same topic.

https://reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/y91xtu/_/it44stu/?context=1

You’re just not worth talking to.

The point was that, even with pistons, adding more doesn’t mean better performance.

It’s no doubt you don’t see a difference when you’re still using tech that’s almost a decade old. Try keeping up, and you’ll notice a difference.

That said, crazy that your MacBook and phone are still working and able to be used, hey? Sure is rough for the consumer these days. Couldn’t use a ten year old computer back in 2008, let alone a phone.

Bleeding edge cuts both ways. Ai, drones, tablets replacing laptops, laptops replacing desktops, phones being the bulk of where we compute, but you’re still complaining.

> Nowadays you just expect a game to run on your PC unless you have an older PC and the game is a true ship of the line nuts to butts eye watering game.

Even then, today you just get the console version instead haha

I was selling computers when Doom 3 came out. That game made us a lot of commission. StarCraft 2, too. Kids like you were a big reason for our bonuses!

Totally agree with you.

Even if transistor count was stagnant, material science null, the design of the chipsets had gotten way more efficient. The boards are more efficiently designed, gpu and other system memory bottlenecks are just gone, kids these days don’t even talk about ghz any more.

Say what you will about the games themselves, but I’ve been able to play civ 6 on my phone for a few years now. To me, a gamer who remembers civ 2 not being able to play on a computer that cost twice as much as my current phone, it’s kinda magical.

Their follow-up statement was that they didn’t have the latest and greatest, just enjoyed that it was out there. That said, inflation is a raging birch, I’m with you there.

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/the-short-and-intriguing-history-of-v-16-and-w-16-engines/

They all really have the same theme.

“New tech isn’t as much of an improvement over last years model”.

The point I’m making is this article comes out every single year, saying the same thing as last years article. Sometimes it’s from CEOs that want to slow down how much they invest in r&d, sometimes it’s from investors prophesying the end of the growth of IT stocks, sometimes it’s the end users themselves.

Quantifiably, moors law has literally ended. The law pertained to the actual count of transistors on a chip, and how small we can make them. The “law” stated we would be doubling the count every — we’ll, it was first every four years, but we outpaced that so he adjusted — two years. That’s not the defining element to how we use tech any more, and chips are so small and with rapidly changing design and dynamics that it’s still, functionally, in place. We haven’t stagnated on transistor count, it’s still going up, but with varying ways of building the chips into the systems tech has in no way plateaued.

Now you’re just being dishonest.

> As for phones, I have an iPhone 6s and my girlfriend has a 13, and they’re not all that different.

Really? Really.

> But sure, people are still engineering clever new things.

And what handles the computations and functions those new things? The absolute powerhouses that sit in our pockets — well, not yours, but other pockets.

Again, that you could say that you barely had enough money, but we’re buying a new computer/processor/gpu every two years — because that’s what it was to keep up from the 2000s to about 2016 — tells me you’re not being honest.

I’m hopping off this comment train.

Dude, now you’re being glib.

Families couldn’t afford a new computer every two years to keep up with schools, people struggled getting new laptops for universities, that you were able to afford it — shit, so was I — doesn’t make it ideal.

The way we work with computers over the last five years has dramatically changed, already. It’s now possible to work from your phone! You can hook up an adapter to an hdmi cable and run that to a tv, use Bluetooth devices for mouse and keyboard, and off you go.

I do 90% of my work from a tablet today. To do what I do, I would never have dreamed that possible.

You’re choosing to ignore the dynamic swing occurring, which is another element to every. Single. One. Of these articles.

>if you had the money

I get it, really I do. I’m just being glib. As I’ve gone through a few of these articles each have made some variation of that point.

Weird Al had a song called “it’s all about the pentiums” which, in the late nineties, called out how if you took a computer home from a box store it was already out of date by the time you opened the box.

The consumer isn’t on the bleeding edge any more, but that doesn’t mean the end of moors law. It’s way better for us at this point. That the consumer isn’t being “punished” or forced to upgrade by the advances in tech is a great thing. The consumer being the backbone of the tech industry was never going to last, but we’re nowhere near dead in the water yet.

2021 - https://builtin.com/hardware/moores-law

2020 - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/beyond-the-beyond/2020/03/preparing-end-moores-law/amp

2019 - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/moores-law-is-dead-nvidias-ceo-jensen-huang-says-at-ces-2019/

2018 - https://www.google.com/amp/s/steveblank.com/2018/09/12/the-end-of-more-the-death-of-moores-law/amp/

2017 - https://www.computer.org/csdl/magazine/cs/2017/02/mcs2017020007/13rRUypGGeJ

2016 - https://www.nature.com/news/the-chips-are-down-for-moore-s-law-1.19338

2015 -https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2015/04/19/the-end-of-moores-law

2014 - https://www.businessinsider.com/great-graphic-is-this-the-end-of-moores-law-2014-1

2013 - https://www.pcworld.com/article/457384/the-end-of-moores-law-is-on-the-horizon-says-amd.html

2012 - https://techland.time.com/2012/05/01/the-collapse-of-moores-law-physicist-says-its-already-happening/

2011 - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2011/03/30/the-end-of-moores-law/amp/

2010 - https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2010/08/23/the-end-of-moores-law-a-love-story/amp/

2009 - https://archive.nytimes.com/bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/counting-down-to-the-end-of-moores-law/

2008 - was a good year, people were pretty optimistic

2007 - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-intel-moore-idUSN1846650820070919

2006 - https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/05/18/18240941.php (had to switch over to bing to find results this far back)

2005 - https://slate.com/technology/2005/12/the-end-of-moore-s-law.html#:~:text=Dec%2020%2C%2020053%3A15%20PM%20Until%20recently%2C%20Moore%E2%80%99s%20Law%2C,a%20chip%20could%20hold%20a%20few%20dozen%20transistors.

2004 - some guy named moor had an issue with the Ten Commandments being infront of state buildings and legal battles ensued. Can’t find anything in two minutes here.

2003 - https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1109/MC.2003.1250885

2002 - https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-death-of-moores-law-will-spur-innovation

This is a long way of saying “is it that time if year already”.