Effective-Dig8734

Effective-Dig8734 t1_j27fwio wrote

If we are talking about like “make me a game that includes a leveling up system, set in a world with dragons and wizards…” then I think we’re still a while away, but it really depends on your definition of a game. It might be able to code a very basic app that could be put on the AppStore as soon as next year, but this would most likely require quite a bit of human help.

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Effective-Dig8734 OP t1_iuugag7 wrote

Yea and can you clarify your claim, is it that the singularity is the invention of a superhuman intelligence, that a superhuman intelligence is necessary, or what?

Edit: because in the original comment I responded to the poster said “To surpass human-level intelligence you need human-level intelligence. No getting around the definitions of the singularity” Implying the definition of the singularity is surpassing human level intelligence. Which (if we assume this paper is the be-all end-all) isn’t supported by this paper.

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Effective-Dig8734 OP t1_iuu0zxk wrote

I dont agree he is the primary promoter in fact I’ve never heard of him before now.

Also what is the “change” he is referring to? The change is the singularity and he just thinks advanced intelligence is how we will achieve it . It’s not necessary, you can have a technological singularity without higher intelligence and you can have higher intelligence without the singularity

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Effective-Dig8734 OP t1_iutv2jf wrote

You’re just wrong my guy, you find the 1 source on the entirety of google that agrees with you and try to act like it’s the final arbiter of truth on the matter. We usually pair the singularity with an increase in intelligence because that’s the most realistic route to the singularity, however it is not the singularity. My description is more similiar to how Neumann described it, how kurzweil describes it, how pretty much anyone describes it. It’s called the technological singularity, not the intelligence singularity

Edit: even then after reading the first few paragraphs it seems like the author agrees with me more

“ I argue in this paper that we are on the edge of change comparable to the rise of human life on Earth. The precise cause of this change is the imminent creation by technology of entities with greater than human intelligence.”

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Effective-Dig8734 OP t1_iutlzxy wrote

That’s not true, it’s likely that is what it will take to reach a singularity but it is not the singularity itself, we could increase human intelligence by 100x but if the rate of technological progress doesn’t change, then we are not in a singularity. A singularity is like a technological revolution, just on steroids

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