Yeah lol. The legends is awful

Very true. I’ve had the same experience. Stock factory lube feels as smooth as 205g0 hand-lubed.

I don’t think you could type on this… /s

You would never know in the world of QMK/VIA. OP could have just remapped it to another key.

Yep, KBD67 case has a blocker beside the arrow keys. This is a tofu case with kbd67 pcb. https://reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/uons4j/_/i8fk10q/?context=1

Are your End and Delete keycaps intentionally swapped for the bottom board?

Yeah but did your meet-ups have beige, grey, or white dye-sub PBT keycaps from XMI or shenpo? XMI is on the pricier side ever since he stopped selling on xianyu and taobao. He was selling for 198 RMB ~ 27.3 USD. Now on 21kb is about 60 USD. Which is still cheaper than most beige sets out there.

For shenpo, it’s very cheap for large compatibility. https://m.tb.cn/h.UVzUxZM?tk=tkg9dZLc8ld This beige set with Hebrew sub legends is only 188 RMB which converts to 26 USD. The quality per dollar is insane compared to lousy clones with reverse dye-sub.

These dye-sub pbt have smooth texture. I’m not sure if you understand but I’ll try to explain. Some ABS sets have those texture like when you rub your finger against it slowly, it will skip little by little. When I type on it, it moves me finger ever so slightly after bottoming out that it throws me off and I hate it.

Aifei’s previous batches of doubleshot ABS have that same texture, but for that price (169 RMB ~ 23.3 USD), I really can’t complain. Their new icons only mod doubleshot ABS set have very smooth texture like dye-sub PBT. I managed to try it at a recent meet-up but I didn’t test this “skipping” texture. If you just move quickly over it, it feels very smooth. I just ordered one set to try out for myself.

Keychron’s doubleshot PBT cherry profile keycaps have smooth texture too but a little “skippy” which triggers me a little hahaha. I’ve touched some doubleshot PBT from Monokei as well and that has quite rough texture. So I guess it’s not about the material, but rather the moulds that they use. It’s quite difficult to judge a set’s texture before touching it yourself :/

Again, not arguing against poorly made dye-sub or 5-side dye-sub PBT keycaps. Just trying to show you that there are dye-sub PBT keycaps that are done well and well worth its 25-30 USD price tag

I think we are arguing for the same point.

Those sellers that I have mentioned do not sell reverse dye-sub. They sell doubleshot ABS or dye-sub PBT for beige or white keycaps.

If you have actually tried them then you have the right to judge them but don’t judge them to be poor quality when you have never bought keycaps from those 3 sellers that I have mentioned. Bonus mention is Keychron’s doubleshot PBT cherry profile keycaps.

Not necessarily paycheck to paycheck that kind of poor. It's just that they are the kind of people that like mechanical keyboards as it is and don't need anything more than a plastic kit with keycaps that they don't need to spend above 50 USD.

It is just a different priority for them (house, family, kid's future education) and mechanical keyboards is just very low on the list. They are satisfied because they are able to customise a keyboard to their liking.

I do not encourage buying from companies like HK Gaming because they aren't enthusiast, just cash grabbers. Or to buy some poorly cloned dye-sub PBT keycaps with cloned novelties.

Please actually look at the sellers that I recommend. Aifei that sells clone sets do not copy novelties. In fact, he/she puts his/her own novelties in the set, such as Ai and Fei in Chinese characters.

Aifei, shenpo, and xiami (or XMI or its main US vendor which is 21kb), are good people that try to bring good and affordable doubleshot ABS and dye-sub PBT to the hobby.

I only recommend buying from these people. Please don’t buy cheap dye-sub PBT clones from other people, especially HK Gaming. You’ll just get awful dye-sub quality like in this post or people that don’t care about this hobby.

Also, I have 2 of Keychron’s doubleshot PBT keycaps sets. It is fantastic. The legends may not look like GMK, but at least it’s consistent. Its compatibility is unrivalled. Largest kit for just 40 USD.

Honestly, morals alone cannot convince a lot of people to spend 80 USD for a keycap set.

Aifei new icons only modifier doubleshot ABS keycaps set is selling for 139 RMB which is like 19 USD and it has basically 2 sets in one. https://m.tb.cn/h.U4iAENr

Many SEA countries are third world countries. They don’t have the means to live like first world countries. Even US people struggle with minimum living wage with high rent prices. Morals being a concern for buying clones is very, very low in priority for most of these people and we should never bully them out of the hobby.

That’s why the general rule of thumb is to only purchase lighter colours like white and beige for dye-sub PBT keycaps.

Reverse/5-side dye-sub marketed themselves so well as if it’s the best thing, yet the quality is sub-par most of the time.

I see. So it’s the lighter shade of blue on the front-side (facing the camera).

My advice is to just get doubleshot ABS clones from aifei. If you don’t know how to buy from taobao through superbuy, then buy from sumgsn on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Keycaps-Double-Profile-Switches-Mechanical/dp/B09HXBVPRD

I would still recommend you to get from aifei through superbuy.

What is poor about the dye-sub? The colour looks way off, sure. I only notice the sides have very, very minor chips from what I could distinguish from the amount of dust on the side of the keycaps.

EDIT: Please read the comments below for proper explanation.

It looks like it’s just dust and OP has used it for some time.

EDIT: Please read the comments below for proper explanation.

Check your R3. It’s the “ASDFGHJKL” row.

Hear and feel if there are any differences in sound between that row and the other rows. It should bottom out (interference means keycap hits housing before switch bottoms out) quicker than others and sound higher pitched.

Refer to this video. https://youtu.be/Bh93sXRh4x4

Your bottom row should be 1.5u - 1u - 1.5u - 7u - 1.5u - 1u - 1.5u. Otherwise known as Tsangan bottom row.

I checked your kit and you have the keycaps for it.

I’d argue that it would still feel less tactile because the slider goes down easier than stock.

The sliders are still in contact throughout the keystroke, adding lube to it will definitely be felt.

My only gripe with silent tactile, especially no pre-travel switches, will feel like a membrane keyboard after some time. But oh well, better than angry co-workers!