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Bit-Random t1_jdm4kfr wrote

No, no comparison at all.

First of all, we should differentiate between the state and individuals within the state. Spain doesn’t prosecute and oppress women, minorities and LGBT. They are all equal in the eyes of the law. Abortions are legal. I seem to recall Spain’s public healthcare even pays for the cost of gender reassignment surgery and/or hormonal treatment (I’m not sure of the details, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong here).

Individuals? Spain has racists, homophobes and xenophobia, yes. This is mostly from the older generation. This exists in many other countries in Europe as well.

In comparison, many Muslim countries do prosecute and oppress women, minorities and LGBT. Many have different laws applying to those populations. Even in the Ottoman Empire, which the commenter above presents as diverse and tolerant, non-Muslims had to pay a special tax, for instance. And then of course, it goes all the way to the violent authoritarian end of the spectrum, where LGBT are locked up and killed, where women who have sex out of wedlock are ostracized and killed, and so on.

TLDR, all countries have racist and intolerant people, but “Christian” countries (if there’s even such a thing) don’t prosecute and oppress women, minorities and LGBT.

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Bit-Random t1_jdlu3by wrote

No, I mean today’s Muslim countries. You know, the more relevant comparison. If a country becomes more Muslim today, is it more likely to become like today’s muslim countries, or like those from centuries ago?

Can you point to any Arab-Muslim country today that’s diverse and tolerant to women, minorities, LGBT?

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Bit-Random t1_j5ng44e wrote

Not lately. It’s been a disgusting regime for decades. They’ve bankrolled a coup in Yemen against a democratically elected government and took the country into a civil war that’s been going on for years.

It’s just that all the sudden when it’s harming Ukraine, people seem to care a lot more.

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Bit-Random t1_iw0f0xh wrote

If that’s not enough, this guy, who threatened prime minister Rabin back in 1995 (a few weeks before he was murdered) and faced dozens of charges for racist incitement, is about to be the Minister of Public Safety, which would make him in charge of the Israeli police.

All the sudden Netanyahu looks less like a right wing hawk and more like the “responsible adult” in this joke of a government.

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