Off topic, but surprising that Andover makes the list. I question the level of intelligence coming out of that city with every person I meet that’s grown up there

I know what I meant. What transit system allows someone to bring multiple sheets of plywood, siding, 2x4s, bags of concrete, paint, and various other supplies? People still need to be able to use their vehicles where/when transit falls short. And it will always fall short.

If I could fit a truck load of building materials onto the comm rail and also carry it, you’d be right. Not everyone has errands and obligations solved by public transit.

I was saying this to an out of town friend who was intrigued with visiting Salem this month. Everything on the north shore takes 2-3x longer. Everything. Went from Lynn to Beverly through Salem on a weekday morning (pre 9am) and took me almost an hour. Take 128 and go through Peabody? Forget it. Lowell st/mall exits back you up like crazy. And the off chance you need to take lowell st in Peabody, you get the assholes refusing to recognize stop signs as stop signs and cut people off causing accidents. No thanks. I know that last one isn’t unique to October, but it’s amplified without a doubt. Everyone is annoyed so decorum is out the window. Locals know Salem is a shitshow and uses other routes clogging up what’s already overused and congested roads. The week when we had Salem and the topsfield fair going, should have just stayed home to avoid the guaranteed headaches