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Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_je3vo0b wrote

The people on Reddit who think Netflix is "dying" strike out yet again. I may not watch Netflix nearly as much anymore and am on the verge of cancelling it anyway, but Redditors need to understand it is far too big to die in the streaming era

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Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_je3vi9j wrote

Action shows can be prestige. Prestige doesn't mean "slow as fuck and would bore the shit out of 99% of people nowadays", it just means exceptionally high quality, high production value, great writing, etc

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Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_je24zkc wrote

>My biggest complaint though is that I don’t think it does nearly enough to lampoon the type of people that these are. Sure there’s little moments here and there, but as a whole, I don’t think it throws anywhere near the amount of punches it needs to. These people actually exist, they’re ruining our planet, so why do I want to watch a show about them doing just that when I can read or watch it happen in real life.

Just about every episode shits on them. You see just how petty and cringe they are, how self-important and arrogant. Pretty much everyone in the show makes a mockery of themselves repeatedly. It doesn't need to be stated explicitly when you look at these guys and laugh or cringe every episode, practically every other scene. And we do see them state many times that they do view Logan as extraordinarily evil anyhow.

>Take shows like The Boys or The White Lotus, which similarly deal with the rich and powerful, but does so with vastly more interesting and deep characters, themes, and creativity

I don't see how the White Lotus is so much deeper tbh. Yes, it also critiques the rich, but in different ways. That's all it is. The White Lotus shows how their lives are cyclical and menial, how nothing they do affects them in a meaningful way. Even at the end of season 2 when the kid got scammed for 50k it was likely not even much of a dent in his family's wealth so they could go on without noticing it much. In both shoes, much is left unsaid. Succession shows what their money and status do to their self image and ambitions. They treat money extremely frivolously, their continous thirst for power causes them to bang their heads on the ceiling over and over. They entertain shameless sycophants whoo massage their egos, they live as if they have nothing to lose, because there really isn't anywhere for them to fall.

The Boys isn't really that strong of a social commentary tbh. And after how that fourth season went, I def wouodnt put it in the convo with Succession or even The White Lotus anymore tbh. Hopefully season 5's gonna be good though.

Succession is just as much of a comedy as a drama, I definitely wouldnt say it's artificial or anything of that nature, it needs the prestige treatment in combination with the chaotic, parody documentary style camerawork to work the way it's meant to. I haven't seen Yellowjackets but apart from Severance (assuming it continues to be as good as it was in season 1), I'm not sure what other show can match Succession. Even the White Lotus, as good as it is, just isn't quite on that level yet imo. I also wasn't personally a huge fan of season 1 tbh, apart from Armond most of the characters weren't very interesting to me and neither was the plot

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Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_je1hipv wrote

I mean how much of Succession have you seen? I was in the same boat as you when I started it but it just gets so good as it goes on. It's not boring at all and is paced pretty quick compared to the average HBO show. I've seen it literally compared to Game of Thrones by some. Succession gets the awards bc of how great its writing is.

What other shows do you think deserve more acclaim? Better Call Saul's over now, so Succession's taken its rightful throne, no? Severance is amazing so far but it's only in its first season

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Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_jaas78t wrote

This scene was just fucking dumb to me tbh. The idea that someone who was a former college football player had "never benched more than 250" is ridiculous. Even in the year 2000, there were probably high school players stronger than that. I could maybe see that if he were a WR, CB, kicker, or punter, but based on his frame that is extremely unlikely to be what he was

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Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_j9qbdsk wrote

Unpopular opinion? Have you been anywhere on Reddit for any amount of time in the past year? It's also not like there's much conpetition, this and TLOU are like the only videogame based shows (or movies for that matter, afaik) that aren't terrible. TLOU didnt even finish dropping its first season yet.

Both have tons of room to go down the drain

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Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_j972yvr wrote

Nobody says that shit about comics bc it doesnt apply to them at all wtf, they are not interactive. Video games are not a great avenue to find stories that work well for adaptation. You need specific ones like TLOU that are great stories in the first place and practically tailor made to be adapted to TV. Those are very few and far between.

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Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_j970dh7 wrote

You disagree with which premise? That most videogame stories suck ass, which they do? Or that most of the best ones wouldn't work that well as an adaptation for film/TV?

Most of the best videogame stories work due to being interactive, it's a different type of immersion that solely filmed media can never provide. And while video games can be a great medium to tell stories, most players likely play games to have fun, not for stories.

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Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_j95791b wrote

Nothing has gotten cancelled after anywhere near as good a season 1 as Breaking Bad had. As much as people complain about Netflix cancellations, they don't cancel the truly great shows (of which they produce very few these days tbf). Shows got cancelled at a similar if not higher rate in the age of cabke, and they often got less than a season

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Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_j94spdv wrote

I don't feel like they have the content quality for this sort of feature tbh. Massive catalog but it's like 80% mediocrity, especially the current/newer stuff (back catalog is pretty insane tbf, Queen's Gambit, Dark, Breaking Bad, BCS, etc). Realistically most people keep Netflix due to the 2 or 3 enormous global smash hits that they release per year, rather than the enormous breadth of subpar shite that they shovel out in droves.

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Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_j5i0ou4 wrote

What made the side characters in the Sopranos more compelling to you? Apart from Paulie, Silvio, Chris, Bobby, Junior, Janice, Patsy, Phil (who was only introduced in the 5th season), and Adriana, most of them are not very distinct or memorable imo. Even out of those characters, several don't show that much growth throughout the series or have all that potent of character arcs.

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Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_j5hso8l wrote

All the good we saw from Tony was very clearly shown to either contradict/betray his true nature, be a facade, or have limited reach. Loving your biological children is not some saintly characteristic, we are literally programmed as humans to do so. The character protrait that the Sopranos managed to paint of Tony Soprano is one of the greatest feats in television history for sure. But if you found him 'likeable', yet can't empathize with any of the Wire's major characters, then idek what to say. That's just very strange.

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Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_j5hqpaa wrote

The Wire is definitely very flawed, but just having unlikeable characters is not a flaw. Many of the greatest shows of all time are rife with unlikeable characters, you mentioned the Sopranos yourself.

I thought you were goung to say something about the many issues season 5 had, or how disjointed season 2 is and how it sticks out like a sore thumb from the rest of the show

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Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_j1yji4y wrote

>I have absolutely no idea why Charlie Cox took this role

Seriously? It's his job lmao. Actors take the roles they're offered. Not alll of them can afford to be super selective and/or require to see every script for anything they touch with a 10 foot pole.

Have you seen De Niro's movies the past 20 years? He went from consistently being a big part of masterpiece after masterpiece, to consistently having a largely insignificant role in shitty comedy after shitty comedy. In recent years, he happened to get the Irishman and Joker, which released the same year, but has only had mediocre roles in mediocre films/shows again after that.

It's the nature of the job. What else has Cox even been in since Daredevil's cancellation? He, like all of us, needed work, so he took it.

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