I didn’t ask if any person was capable, I’m asking you if you believe the testimony of Dietrich, Fravor the two pilots, and Kevin Day the radar operator. I’m asking you a simple question, are you if the impression that they didn’t see what they saw or the data isn’t what the radar operators say they are? I’m asking you an honest question? I’m trying to to out myself in the mindset of thinking that way and am unable to do I’m curious how you got there?

Ok, so what would you say IS truly happening in regards to military and service member reports of these objects. The recent USS Nimitz incident involving the tic tac is a perfect example of a multiple trained and credible observer witness report, corroborating radar, satellite, and gun camera data… this is still a “claim” for you? That’s bullshit and you know it. There’s no moving the goalposts here. The Nimitz incident isn’t the only one like it as well.

This study I’m not too optimistic about but I would love to be proven wrong. I’m more paying attention to the recent passing of the NDAA that includes language related to the UAP reports due to congress as well as provisions for whistleblowers to come forward with immunity in regards to legacy black programs involved in crash retrieval’s and possibly in possession of material that may be of interest. Again, I’m no expert but to me that’s where the golden ticket is, compartmentalized black budget programs that prominent members of the intelligence agencies have purported to exist over the years. Just my opinion.

I’m in agreement with you, the past 4 years have seen a sea change in how the topic is being viewed/discussed and I can assure you, regardless of what our government/military agencies say, the do know more than they are letting on/revealing and there absolutely is more evidence than what has been revealed thus far.

They are taking this seriously despite what is revealed in public and to think otherwise is delusional. As you said, there are too many reports/testimony from highly credible witnesses to ignore. Also to use a straw man argument like 1 in 5 people claim they’ve seen a ghost again doesn’t address the issue at hand.

We’re at a point now where the issue isn’t if these things aren’t real, the US government says they are, the issue is what are they… I prefer to contribute to the discussion by adding to the effort of finding out, not dismissing reality outright. Something is going on, period. What it is is the part that everyone should be excited about, especially regular visitors/members of a space subreddit lol

While I certainly won’t speak for everyone, you are correct. It appears that because humans have not discovered the physics/technology (yet) to travel vast distances in space either instantaneously or at speeds that would make exploration worth the time/effort, a majority of people think it simply can’t be done.

While I’m all for a healthy dose of skepticism, there are simply too many expert witness reports and testimony to ignore. Sure, some of those can be passed off crazy farmers in overalls or a mass hallucination (which isn’t a phenomenon btw), there are sane people who have seen/experienced extraordinary things including our top military aviators in reference to the tic tac incident.

To not investigate these to their fullest extent to find out what they are is simply unscientific and only serves to continue to keep this topic in the dark which isn’t where it belongs anymore