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-introuble2 t1_j5654sv wrote
Reply to Did ancient Greeks think that observation prevented observation of the paranormal / paradoxa? by Zestyclose-Advisor71
Surely not exactly what you're looking for; I can't recall something. But perhaps these are possibly relevant in a really broader way as a disturbance of rites:
Plutarch writes about Agesilaus II, king of Sparta [396 BCE ca] that after a vision he tried to perform a sacrifice in Aulis using with his own seer for the ritual, against the customs of Boiotenas, who forbade the rite and threw away the sacrificial animal [Plut. Ages. 6.4-6]. The incindent had been narrated previously by Xenophon [Xen. Hell. 3.4] but with no claimed reason. Check also Paus. 3.9.3-5 where more possibly this disruption comes after some boasting [?].
Also one more where a priest seems asking for no disturbance before some ritual [?]... Heliodorus Aeth. 4.5: 'καὶ οἱ λοιποὶ πάντες ἔξιτε· τρίποδά τις καὶ δάφνην καὶ πῦρ καὶ λιβανωτὸν παραθέσθω μόνον, ὀχλείτω δὲ μηδὲ εἷς ἕως ἂν προσκαλέσωμαι.' Προσέταττε ταῦτα ὁ Χαρικλῆς καὶ ἐγένετο. Not aware of the plot here, it would need surely good checking before use.
You may also find of some interest Polybius [Plb. 6.56.6ff] where a general approach on Romans' rites, beliefs, religion [as his comparison somehow ?], but really not to the point.
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Reply to comment by woahwoahwoahthere in Deciphering ancient texts with modern tools, Michael Langlois challenges what we know about the Dead Sea Scrolls and biblical archaeology by MeatballDom
I got interested too. There's a pdf-link for "Le premier manuscrit du Livre d’Hénoch" scrolling down in the https://michaellanglois.org/publications/the-first-manuscript-of-the-book-of-enoch-an-epigraphical-and-philological-study-of-the-aramaic-fragments-of-4q201-from-qumran_le-premier-manuscrit-du-livre-dhenoch-etude-epigraphique-et-philologi/
-introuble2 t1_j3rjje4 wrote
Reply to Deciphering ancient texts with modern tools, Michael Langlois challenges what we know about the Dead Sea Scrolls and biblical archaeology by MeatballDom
thank you for sharing this! Really interesting; though the article is referring to more than 1 topics that are causing the need for further search
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Reply to comment by its_raining_scotch in How did the Romans manage to arm most of their soldiers with swords? by Horror_in_Vacuum
The closest I could find is in Strabo 3.2.8 about silver in Spain, where a little loosely: "and they are making the silver furnaces tall, so that the fiery smoke from the lumps to be lifted up in the air; cause it's heavy and destructive"
-introuble2 t1_j0td4j6 wrote
Reply to Greek Hinduism - any surviving legacy? by Isabella1293
From a previous reading I thought I had a reference that many Greeks had converted or entered into Jainism, too. I can't refind what I had in mind but maybe an older writing is also of some interest; from The Greeks In Bactria And India by W. W. Tarn, 1938, p. 391 "... but in fact at present there are only five Greeks whose religious predilections are known or can be deduced, and three of these were not Buddhists...." in https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.282142/page/n413/mode/2up
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Reply to comment by Bentresh in A wall relief, comprising five figures carved on a bench in a communal building dating to the 9th millennium BC, was found in Sayburç, south-eastern Turkey, in 2021. It constitutes the earliest known depiction of a narrative ‘scene’ by -introuble2
Thank you!
"... in the form of narrative compositions or ‘scenes’ that feature clear figurative depictions of sets of figures in spatial proximity to each other..."
Though it isn't hard to understand what 'narrative scene' could mean, however, I can't always recognize it. In such and other examples, at least in my eyes it isn't always clear; i.e. when this should be considered one depiction of larger scale, or separated and independent somehow 'scenes', or in the end separated but connected [like 'panels'] 'telling a story'? Even if they were arranged horizontally
-introuble2 OP t1_izoxku1 wrote
Reply to comment by newtsheadwound in A wall relief, comprising five figures carved on a bench in a communal building dating to the 9th millennium BC, was found in Sayburç, south-eastern Turkey, in 2021. It constitutes the earliest known depiction of a narrative ‘scene’ by -introuble2
It's fascinating to see a 'story' that ancient, being depicted. However I'm not so sure about the exact classifications; i.e. when it should be considered 'narrative', if scientists are distinguishing on the base of material etc. In any case I wish I knew the story...
-introuble2 OP t1_izokfif wrote
Reply to comment by einstruzende in A wall relief, comprising five figures carved on a bench in a communal building dating to the 9th millennium BC, was found in Sayburç, south-eastern Turkey, in 2021. It constitutes the earliest known depiction of a narrative ‘scene’ by -introuble2
>how this was dated
not sure. However these aren't totally new findings and I think that they are part of a bigger excavation area
-introuble2 OP t1_izm8oz9 wrote
Reply to A wall relief, comprising five figures carved on a bench in a communal building dating to the 9th millennium BC, was found in Sayburç, south-eastern Turkey, in 2021. It constitutes the earliest known depiction of a narrative ‘scene’ by -introuble2
what attracted mostly my attention, besides the photo, was the phrase: it constitutes the earliest known depiction of a narrative ‘scene'
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Reply to Might be a stupid question, but I've been watching a lot of stuff regarding the Spartan and Persians recently and I always wondered how would these people have communicated back then? Were there specific scholars in both countries that were trained in various languages? by herewego199209
I don't know if this could help but, as far as I remember, regarding the Persian wars historian Herodotus sometimes is mentioning the use of interpreters [uses the word ἑρμηνεύς], while at other instances he places persons of different nations speaking directly. This underlines the possibility that he implies that they were speaking with the same language.
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Reply to Medieval Mixed-Gender Fight Club: Behold Images from a 15th-Century Fighting Manual by ArtOak
thank you for drawing my attention to this article & successively to the manuscripts!